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What would be the perfect song to introduce a JW comedy sketch?
by usualusername1 ini have no idea.... .
any ideas will help.... .
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In the paradise JWs will have a standard uniform
by RodrigoGuerreiro inanyone else notice this on the last video of the regional convention 2016?.
frame stills:.
conclusion: it seems that the paradise will not be only the end of wickedness but also the end of the jws typical cheap polyester suits :-p.
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Notice all the women have long hair also.
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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?
by Sabin inso my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?
because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.
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stumble
bad association
worldly
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Even Now, You Haunt Me...
by Garrett ineven after leaving the organization, it still lurks in the background like a shadow.. as some of you know, i met a wonderful girl a while ago (which i'm going to need your help with).
she is a catholic and i am open and very respectful of her beliefs.
however, i know there will be a time where i will have to tell her that i once was a witness... and to be honest, i'm quite scared of that.. i don't want things to be ruined between us because of a disgusting cult that i was in.
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My husband was raised a catholic. It will but won't matter. She will never totally understand - and that is why forums like this are vital to connect with those who do understand. Don't expect her to understand, but let her know. Honestly it mostly gets you sympathy points. : ) If you are serious and pursue to marriage and children that might make a difference. I fought to not have our children raised as catholics or any religion - and not to be baptized, even though his family were pretty adamant. When I explained my reasoning and my plan of educating the children in all beliefs and letting them make an informed decision as adults he relented and now is totally on board with the concept. -
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Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized
by ILoveTTATT2 inhi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
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1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?
Raised (3rd generation)
2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)
Started taking seriously being witness very young, but wasn't baptized until 1985 (a couple days after I turned 13).
3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)
I was physically out - disfellowshipped in 2005, but wasn't completely mentally out until I started doing internet research when I was pregnant with my daughter in 2010.
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YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?
by Quarterback inhalf of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.
but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.
i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.
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I was told by the elders in my congregation when I was in that even if you received a free membership from the YMCA you would be disfellowshipped or disassociated because it was pledging membership to a false religious charter. You could take individual classes there, but you could not join the Y as a member to use their facilities on a regular basis as it was considered apostasy. I believe this is still upheld. -
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Which bible character do you hate the most?
by Bonsai inthe more i think about it, the more i feel an extreme dislike for the apostle paul.
he was on par with hitler in his treatment of the jews before he "saw the light".
he replaced jesus teachings of love and mercy with a more legalistic, pharisaical concept of devotion to god.. any evil person can come to believe in god and worship him if the scales were literally and miraculously removed from his eyes.
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David
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Are we participants in this forum because of bouts of "loneliness"?
by Wonderment ini wonder how many of us here hold on to this meeting place out of "loneliness.
could it be that we harbor feelings of "abandonment" and "loneliness" from being left cold and dry by the wt people and our families?
perhaps we do have a need to reach out to people with similar experiences.
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Research is what initially brought me to this forum. Contact and interchange with others who understand - and only those who have been in can truly understand - is why I keep coming back. I am not lonely. I have a wonderful family, and I am slowly making a social life for myself, although it takes a lot of effort when you are a born-in and leave in 30's +. But my husband and small children, extended family/in-laws, and new "worldly" friends - never being JW's, just can't understand everything. They don't get my mindset on things and they don't understand what it was like growing up as a child, adolescent, and young adult in the JW world. Most of them are lax or former Catholics, but they still have their family by their side and their whole social structure from childhood on. This forum gives me an outlet to know I am not alone and to basically commiserate with those who truly "get it". I think many who visit this forum feel the same way. And if I can help someone newly out or on their way out, so much the better. I went through a lot of guilt and mental/emotional upheaval when I left; easing others transition to the real world is another reason I visit and have tried to share more of late on this forum. -
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Can a baptism be annulled?
by angel.face ini joined this site about 4 years ago and life was very different to say the least.
i was a jw and started the process of 'waking up' after experiencing life threatening blood loss due to complications of a pregnancy.
i was married with two kids (husband was an ms) and was a stay-at-home mom.
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"Also, there is the concept of 'ratification', which in essence means that a person who, upon reaching the age of majority, abides by the terms of a 'contract' that they entered as a minor, the terms of the contract are upheld. This too has been used to weasel out of legal wrangling related to the baptism of minor children."
This is why it is a captive religion, especially to those born in. A decision made as a child - in my case a few days after I turned 13, has to be upheld, because otherwise you lose everything and everyone if you choose to leave at any time, as a minor or adult. You have the choice to "ratify" or be shunned. That isn't really a choice. And that isn't even factoring the brainwashing, cognitive dissonance, lack of chance to develop critical thinking skills, inability to form outside social networks, depression, lack of self-esteem, guilt, PTSD...etc.
Unfortunately, I believe this has been brought before the courts in the US and upheld as valid on the side of JW's.
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Indoctrination and subordination
by Tornintwo inthere are so many gems in in search of christian freedom but i thought this section in 'indoctrination and subordination' was excellent, summing things up brilliantly, worth highlighting for anyone who hasn't read the book;.
"the sum of the evidence is, then, that although no extreme physical isolation occurs, a very effective mental isolation is pro- duced by the organizations interpretation placed on jesus words about not being part of the world.
the community of believers becomes quite insulated and intellectually sealed off from any source of scriptural material other than that coming from the one voice, that of the organization.
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I recently heard the term "isolationist beliefs" used in reference to JW's. The term is so poignant because it concentrates pretty much the whole JW theology into a couple of words. As a born-in who left in my early 30's I know too well how this isolation from the "world" effects one. When I was cut off from every friend and any of my family members that were JW's, it led to a time of great loneliness and a feeling of not belonging anywhere - feelings that 11 years later still linger. I had done everything I was supposed to in the JW world to an extreme. My parents homeschooled me, so I never established outside relationships as a child. Even the neighborhood kids we were never allowed to call our friends - we had to refer to them as "acquaintances". After finishing high school at age 15, I enrolled in a community college and received major backlash from the elders because I was pursuing higher education. Higher education in itself was bad, because I would be exposed to the "philosophy and empty deception of men". But also I was told that I was not thinking spiritually because I was intentionally putting myself in an unnecessary place of worldly association. I eventually yielded to pressure and quit - the guilt trip was relentless. As an adult I sought jobs in the computer industry in which I worked solo, so as to avoid unnecessary association with workmates, eventually starting my own business so I could pioneer and work out of my home - completely separate from "bad association".
At 32, when I left, I was thrust into the "world" with no social structure, a blank sheet of a background - and very little in the way of social skills. I have gradually made friends with non-JW's, but the effort of having to start from scratch, at a time when most have long-established friendships, is quite exhausting. Interestingly enough, through some of those friends I have met and become friendly with non-JW relatives I never knew I had (I live in a very small State where everyone is about 3 degrees of separation). My grandparents became witnesses before my father was born, and cut themselves off from all there worldly relatives, almost word for word the process explained in In Search of Christian Freedom.