Punkofnice what you said is the truth. As a elder we would get sometimes 10 to 15 letters per month to the BOE on things on what we should do or not do. I would get so sick of it all. Turn out alot of it was lawyer talk legal stuff letters. Then the GB putting themselves up on a pedestal. I would think what do we need Jesus for when we got the GB. Those were the big red flags that started coming up for me. Then the lack of love among those in the congregation. Where CA or DC was more important than showing love to ones of the faith who have just lost loved ones. It truly is a cult. Totally ADD
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What Actually Made You Leave The Organization?
by minimus inmany of us needed time to get away from this religion.
i took the course of fading and it's worked pretty well for me.
after i saw sooooo many silly rules being enforced, i needed to get out!.
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40 kgs (88pounds) down and going strong.
by LouBelle inso yes i have lost just over 40 kg's or 88 pounds.
it has taken me just under 5 months.
i do still have a bit to go and know that this next phase is going to be hard,but i've tasted success and i like it.. i've got my first bikini - not that i've struted around in it...yet .
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From one who has fought the fine fight of fat and still fighting. I applaud you in what you have done. I lost 40lbs. last year and it brought my BP and sugar level way down. I so happy for you. Keep up the good work. Totally ADD P.S. I don't look good in a bikini so I did not buy one. LOL
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Which Generation Are You?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwhich generation are you?
and do you overlap with any or all of them?.
generation y has become the popular nickname for current teens and young adults.. .
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Becoming a old baby boomer generation. Totally ADD
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Watchtower baptism thousands of Children
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower baptism thousands of children.
today i uploaded a new article to my blog comparing what watchtower said about jesus and baptizing children with what watchtower had been doing for years.
my article is titled watchtower baptism thousands of children and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/08/watchtower-baptism-thousands-of.html.
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Whatever happen to the teaching that the parents being baptised protected their children? It was like a protective umbrella the children were under. I was 16 when I got baptised and I only did it because some pioneer told me I could not be used in anything in the hall unless I was baptised. All the wrong reasons. Which shows I was way to young to make such a big decision that would effect me for the rest of my life. Totally ADD
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Oh, you are a born-in. You had it easy!
by TotallyADD inafter reading sabastious post on when did you lose your confidence.
i started thinking about what it was like in the early 70's when large groups of people were coming into the wt cult because of the 1975 teaching.
talking with these people they whould tell me how hard it was for them to become a jw.
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exwhyzee: Amen to that last paragraph. Sadly I remember being like that. Totally ADD
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Need help waking up a JW friend - Significant prophetic years in JW history
by SweetBabyCheezits inguys, i have a chance to help an old friend but i'm pressed for time.
i'll be googling while i'm waitin for responses but i thought others might have some great sources that are harder to find.. first, can anyone recommend a list or website that lists all the infamous years that russell and other leaders expected to have special significance?
it's been too long since i've read up on all of that but i'm thinking about the years like 1799, 1874, 1881, 1910, 1914, etc.... but i need it to be concise, like a table, and i must be able to list references to scans at least.
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Please I want a copy of that list so I can use it on some people I know. Totally ADD
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What's The Worst Thing About Being A Witness?
by minimus infor me, a jehovah's witness does not have a real life!
jw's are like trained soldiers.
they could be fervent or lax or happy or unhappy in their role but they are trained to drone on like stepford wives.. what an utter waste of an existence being a jehovah's witness!.
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As a teenage boy only having sex on my mind and knowing I was going to die at the big A for being normal. Totally ADD
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Oh, you are a born-in. You had it easy!
by TotallyADD inafter reading sabastious post on when did you lose your confidence.
i started thinking about what it was like in the early 70's when large groups of people were coming into the wt cult because of the 1975 teaching.
talking with these people they whould tell me how hard it was for them to become a jw.
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I go to bed and wakeup to find more of your great comments. This has really given me a feel of how everybody is feeling.
Hortensia: Choosing to be happy and making it real I think is what everybody here on this forum is trying to do. I liken it to going on a very long trip. But you have all this baggage you are carrying. As time goes on you have to decide what baggage you no longer need. So you let go of it and leave in on the side of the road and forget about so your trip is easier and you have lighten your load. At the end of the trip you have a whole new prospective on life.
Band on the Run: I remember the Cuban missle crisis as a kid. I thought I was going to die in a nuclear attack. And yes living with the idea that the big A is coming is like living through the Cuban missle crisis everyday. Good point.
exwhyzee: I hated those CA experiences also where everybody is applauding a bad person becoming good while all of us who did nothing bad were ighored. Until someone wanted something then they walk all over you and took advanage of you.
Berongaria: I think I am the tree with the bicycle in it. Good viual illustration. Be glad when that damm thing rust off.LOL
EmptyInside: As a child I always wish I could have seen both sides but was told I didn't need to the WT has all the answers for you.
sizemik: Thanks for the meaning of prat. Both my wife and I did not know.
Awen: The human spirit is strong in us born-ins and converts. We will prevail in our exit form the cult.
LV101: I think the book idea is great. I think I know someone who would love a project like that.
Stillthinking: Thank You. I needed that. Take care.
Again Thanks for all who have commented on this thread. Totally ADD
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Do You Want Unconditional Love?
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then allow a dog to share your life.
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What other guy gets to go to bed every night with 3 girls. All that unconditional love. Totally ADD
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Oh, you are a born-in. You had it easy!
by TotallyADD inafter reading sabastious post on when did you lose your confidence.
i started thinking about what it was like in the early 70's when large groups of people were coming into the wt cult because of the 1975 teaching.
talking with these people they whould tell me how hard it was for them to become a jw.
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Thank you for everyone who posted. I find it very enlightening by all your comments and vewpoints from both sides of the fence. And some I did not even think of. It has all made me a more empathetic person on what you all went through. Thank you for the understanding.
blondie: I am so sorry for what you went through. I went through the same thing as a child. I see this struck a chord with you. I did not mean to upset you. I hope you are feeling better now. It was not our fault it was the cult we were in. Take care and thank you for your WT comments and all you do to help us understand.
Pig: I agree born-ins are innocent children with no say in the matter. Same here dressed up in a suit went door to door, no friends, made fun of me. But No Family Study. My parents throught at the age of six I was old enough to study on my own. LOL
sizemik: You hit the nail right on the head. It is difficult for most if not everyone. The cult has a very stronghold on it members.
Black Sheep. You got that one right. All it takes is one cult parent to ruin a child life. Also been there done that. Will we have to start calling you B.R. LOL. Thanks for your comments. Stay strong.
punkofnice: Me to. I am 57 and happy to be out. I love your statement "I am not a JW apostate I am a freedom fighter." Good one.
Ding: Yes it is.
sizemik and Black Sheep. What Is A Pratt?
No Room For Geroge: Those who are converts are looking for guidance and possibly someone to tell them what to do. Born-ins alot of times are caught in the middle not knowing which direction to go or how to get out. Because of that end up even deeper in the cult and exposing themselves to more abuse.
negget: I understand. I don't know any born-in that had a childhood that was pleasant either. You are right on when you said they are moulded to deny self and accept the cult organisation. No one has it easy.
Outlaw: Thank you for the good laugh. Don't some JW already talk into Black berrys? Is that the same as blueberrys. LOL
stuckinamovement: Yes that was only good thing I had also in the cult. Meeting my wife and having our kids together.
NomandSoul: Hey 50 years is not that bad he got out just like my wife and I did.
Morbizbaby. I agree everyone has an equal struggle. We are all on the same side.