Posts by porfiada

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Since the numbers of those partaking are increasing......

by justmom in

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........and not decreasing, and 1935 hasn't shut up the heavenly hope..... then maybe folks are hearing the invitation at john 6:35-59....... "i am the bread of life!

he that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood (communion) has everlasting life, and a resurrection.

unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.

porfiada

Hi Justmom

Yeah probably your idea of just going and showing them what they should be doing according to Jesus' words, were will be doing better...and their numbers of partakers are increasing too because there have been such exJWS, like beforethesolstice says he did in YouTube

Please excuse if this link does not work, I copied the "embed code" from YouTube. The video is called "Ex-witnesses: Attend the 2010 memorial"

Cheers

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Los Testigos de Jehova y las transfusiones de sangre

by porfiada in

hola amigos.

si tiene alguna duda o pregunta sobre el tema de las transfusiones de sangre, visiten:.

http://www.ajwrb.org/tjinfo.htm.

porfiada

Hi again

I am sorry i did not translate the message for you. There is nothing in the post that you don't already know. Next time I will provide a translation, ok?

I also know that we are mostly ex-JWS.

I am officially an inactive JW but I don't see the need to DA because they can't even find a record of my baptism . So I said informed JW so as not spook active JWs, plus I am not lying!

The intention of the post was to create a headline for and Spanish-speaking JWS who want to research the blood policy can find where to go for all the REAL info, as provided in Spanish on the AJWRB website. I don't know how to make a link here, I just copied and posted the http of the Spanish AJWRB website.

I appreciate that in this forum we are well informed, with personal experiences from ex bethelites and the like, and its such a shame that Spanish and other language-speaking countries cannot easily access this info. I grew up in LatinAmerica with the JWs over there.....so I would really like to make more eye-opening info available to Spanish speaking JWs, as it is in these countries and Africa where it seems that the major growth of the WTS membership is nowdays.

I would like to find such a good forum as this one in Spanish!!

Let me know if you have nay ideas of topics to put here with a translation. I thought the the most urgent topic is the blood one.

Cheers

Porfiada ( a "muneco porfiado" is a dolly that always bounces back. This just plain porfiada, as I have been in and bounced out twice. Don't think I am going agan though because this time I have done my research.

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Is the family of Pike River Mine victim William John Joyson (a JW) ok in Queensland?

by porfiada in

worry: 'the longer they are down there... well, the chances are getting slimmer and slimmer each day, aren't they?

' veronica cook, sister of miner willy joynson, pictured.the pike river minersthe pike river minersmalcolm campbellfrancis mardenpeter james rodgerchris dugganben rockhousejosh uferbrendon palmermilton osborneblair sims .

william john joynson, 49, dunollie australia.. an experienced underground miner who worked for many years in the burgowan mines at howard, near bunderberg.

porfiada

Great news, Mattiew, I had been hoping that they were not flooded....Thanks mate

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Los Testigos de Jehova y las transfusiones de sangre

by porfiada in

hola amigos.

si tiene alguna duda o pregunta sobre el tema de las transfusiones de sangre, visiten:.

http://www.ajwrb.org/tjinfo.htm.

porfiada

Hola amigos

Si tiene alguna duda o pregunta sobre el tema de las transfusiones de sangre, visiten:

http://www.ajwrb.org/tjinfo.htm

....donde podran hallar todo lo que necesitan para hacer una decision responsable e informada.

Recuerden lo que Uds decidan afectara directamente a Uds mismos y su familia cuando menos lo esperan.

Les saluda afectuosamente

Una TJ informada

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The futility keeps getting brighter and brighter

by munchausen in

here is an interesting measure of the increasing futility of bible studies.

this may have been commented on before, but i don't recall seeing it.. .

1999 yearbook total bible studies 4,302,852. total baptisms 316,092.

porfiada

Hey since the best growth seems to be in Latin America and Africa, wouldn't it be great if we could make some section of posts in their languages, if anyone is capable? I put up my hand for Spanish. I can translate a very straightforward post that you guys as a group recommend, to help people who are interested in studying with WTS or wanting to leave can get hitched here into open and honest discussion. What would you recommend?? I don't know where to start!

Hasta la vista!!

Porfiada (naughty/stubborn, in Spanish)

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Where Is Nickolas and SweetBabyCheezits ???????

by wasblind in

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porfiada

Hi I had noticed Nickolas' posts before I joined and now that I am here I have also noticed that he is not around....is there anyway that you can message him?

People say "you can PM me" so I maybe you can....don't know how though. He might be on holidays still....

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Elder said people "rarely" die from refusing a blood transfusion

by InterestedOne in

i sat in on the "know your options" reading tonight, and the elder said a couple things i was wondering about:.

1. he said if a doctor says you have a high risk of dying if you refuse a blood transfusion, he is misleading you.

he said people "rarely" die from refusing a blood transfusion.

porfiada

Good point Moshe

I especially recommend Jehovah’s Witnesses this interpretation of the Bible's stand on blood issues. It is quite respectable, and you don't have to die for it. http://www.ajwrb.org/bible/index.shtml

I have made a contribution to another website as "Mrs. Researcher", where I list some useful links:

http://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2011/01/links-for-jehovah’s-witnesses-on-blood-transfusions/

I hope all Jws will decide for themselves what is right, as it is their lives that are on the table, not the Governing Body's. When was the last time that a GB member died for lack of an organ transplant (as banned in the early seventies by the GB) or a blood transfusion??

Good one outlaw, I love your JanitorElder!!

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Elder said people "rarely" die from refusing a blood transfusion

by InterestedOne in

i sat in on the "know your options" reading tonight, and the elder said a couple things i was wondering about:.

1. he said if a doctor says you have a high risk of dying if you refuse a blood transfusion, he is misleading you.

he said people "rarely" die from refusing a blood transfusion.

porfiada

Hi

I understand the issues (and I wouldn't put my money (or life!) on statements 1) or 2). I needed a transfusion (actually I had 4) and I had NO problems. I probably would have died without them as I had been bleeding for hours and my blood prssure got as low as 70 over 40 (half of a normal person).

I recommend you read the analysis of the blood broachure's statements' article: “Jehovah’s Witnesses, Blood Transfusions, and the Tort of Misrepresentation” Journal of Church and State, September 22, 2005. Author: Louderback-Wood, Kerry

Written by an attorney who was personally affected by the no-blood policy. It seems longer than what it actually is because of the number of references listed, which give it substance and credibility. The essay exposes the vulnerability of the Watchtower Society to tort claims because of the religion’s misrepresentations of secular writers in the 1990 pamphlet: “How blood can save your life”, published by the Watchtower Society, used to teach Jehovah’s Witnesses the no-blood policy for the last two decades.

Now the full article is available online for free:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3244/is_4_47/ai_n29228845/

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Did you Fade Gradually or Stop Attending Meetings Quickly ? Reasons ?

by flipper in

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been thinking about this and curious about what makes us all come to the decisions we came to in our fade/exiting the jw organization.. i think for myself having been born-in & raised a jw my doubts about the generation doctrine had simmered for years within me quietly and by the time i finally left in 2003 i had reached my breaking point.

also seeing unjust treatment of rank & file witness ( myself included ) just propelled me into my decision even quicker.

so - one day after meeting with 3 elders in a back room before a meeting and seeing their judgmental aggression towards me - i just told myself " enough is enough ".

porfiada

I was tld off for waering trousers to a book study when i was 18. They came to my house, the elders, to say I was not submissive enough. I had some questions for them but they said they would answer thm another day and the problem with me was that I "had doubts". I never went to a meeting in 17 years after that. I haven't been DFd and they have no record of me anymore. Sadly, i slipped in for a while but I have stopped going for almost 2 months now and will never go again-after we couldn't agree on the blood issue with my new" God' Love" bible study teacher. I will move soon to another city and will not remain unknown there as I had been here until a year ago.

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WTS - The most inefficient marketing company in the world!

by Robert7 in

businesses have a known customer acquision cost.

this is the cost of advertising, subsidies, etc.

it takes to add one new customer.

porfiada

Well done Robert this religion cannot have Godly-Direction for sure...