Posts by Quendi

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How come it was Our Kingdom Ministry then it was Our Kingdom Service then it was changed back to Our Kingdom Ministry?

by hoser in

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it was okm in the old days 50s and 60s then it was our kingdom service in the 70's then they changed it back again??????.

this is the publication used at the service meeting thursday nights showing how to preach in the territory..

Quendi

Others have noted that with the purge of Ray Franz, Ed Dunlap, et al., the WTS went on to effectively erase all of their contributions. One particular example that comes back to me is the audiocassette recording of the Gospel of John. Ray Franz did the original reading. After he left Bethel, the Gospel was re-recorded with a different voice. I don't recall who was the next reader, but the move to replace the Franz recording reminded me of what was done in the old Soviet Union to people who were no longer in official favor. The WTS followed the same route.

Quendi

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Did you miss out on "higher education" when a JW but go to college later?

by Mad Sweeney in

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i did.

still not finished with a degree yet but i'll get there.. how about you?.

Quendi

Considering how little many JWs know, and how much of what they do absorb comes from WTS literature, is it any wonder so many are frustrated by their lack of fulfillment and opportunities. But when I reflect on this I am reminded of a bumper sticker I saw once. It read, "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance." Jehovah's Witnesses would do well to keep that in mind and not let the WTS keep them in chains. That reminds me of another advertising slogan that the United Negro College Fund frequently used: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." Now that I'm on a roll, I'll conclude with this. A friend told me about a poster he saw on a bulletin board in a college campus building. It showed Jesus standing over the words "He came to take away our sins...not our minds."

Quendi

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New Light @ The 2011 District Convention

by dontplaceliterature in

" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.

my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?

" represents, or some other fangled idea.

Quendi

Thanks for that answer, ynot. There are many facets of preterist belief that I also embrace. I was wondering if jehovahsheep was a preterist or not.

Quendi

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If this doesn't scream cult, what does?

by LostGeneration in

from the now infamous 7.15.2011 wt.

page 28, para 16 and 17-. we can enter into jehovahs rest or join him in his restby obediently working in harmony with his advancing purpose as it is revealed to us through his organization.

(italics theirs-not mine).

Quendi

Statements like these only make me that much more determined to put an ever-widening distance between me and the WTS.

Quendi

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New Light @ The 2011 District Convention

by dontplaceliterature in

" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.

my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?

" represents, or some other fangled idea.

Quendi

I have a question for jehovahsheep. Why do you say Armageddon occurred in A.D. 70? It's a belief I also have but I'm curious how you arrived at it.

Quendi

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Did you miss out on "higher education" when a JW but go to college later?

by Mad Sweeney in

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friends

i did.

still not finished with a degree yet but i'll get there.. how about you?.

Quendi

I originally went to college at the University of Alabama from 1974 to 1977. I studied metallurgy there, but dropped out before earning my degree. I was convinced that Armageddon was right around the corner and I had burned out on school as well. Eventually I moved away from Alabama to Colorado where I pioneered. But the desire for a college education had never left me. So when the WTS came out with its "new light" on the meaning of the word "generation" back in 1995, I used that as the reason to return to college and get my degree.

I first went to community college and then transferred to the University of Colorado where I majored in geography and mathematics. Of course, I got the warning visit from the elders. But I was in my early forties then, and told them that I knew what I was doing and nothing and nobody was going to get in my way. That shut them up. The strange thing about the visit was that one of the elders held a Ph.D. in geology, yet here he was in my home trying to tell me that a college education was not worth the time or trouble!

I graduated with a BA in geography and mathematics back in 2002. It was one of the proudest moments in my life, especially when I was asked to give a commencement address during the Geography Department's recognition ceremonies. Quite a few people came to my graduation, including some from the local congregations. They were all happy for me as well. I was 46 years old when I got my degree. So I would say it is never too late to go back to school, and I would urge people like DesirousOfChange to think about it.

Quendi

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Whose "mouthpiece" was Pastor Russell: Jehovah's or the Adventists??

by Terry in

either charles taze russell obtained his ideas from jehovah or he didn't.. if russell didn't get them from jehovah---from where?.

let's take a survey of the facts about william miller and subsequent adventist teachings.. then, we can ask this question again!.

when william miller (baptist farmer turned theologian) predicted the 2nd coming of christ in 1843/44 a large segment of america's population believed along with him.. miller was invited to preach in church after church.

Quendi

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The TWO BABYLONS to the NGO fiasco: looking at how they got there

by Terry in

here i have reverse engineered what the proclaimer's book does.

they disconnect all the connections and place the pieces of their history out of order and context.

this defuses causes and effects.

Quendi

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New Light @ The 2011 District Convention

by dontplaceliterature in

" at the bottom of the image on the back of the invitation raises some eyebrows, but last night in the routine district convention article during the service meeting, i caught that one of the paragraphs mentioned that we would be encouraged to keep a copy of the tract in hand for a discussion during sunday's last talk.

my guess is, there is going to be some new revelation about what the "?

" represents, or some other fangled idea.

Quendi

Well, this tract brings back some not-so-wonderful memories of attending conventions. I agree with Mr. Falcon that the whole thing is nothing more than a big tease. It is clear that the rank and file are tiring out. They are feeling the weight of unmet and unfulfilled expectations and promises. Plus, the Governing Body is cracking down on dissent of any kind. The only real surprise is the announcement that three dramas will be presented at the district convention. For my part, I had grow tired of them as well because they were used to force-feed WTS dogmas on the captive audience. These three will probably be more of the same. All in all, I'm glad I won't be attending. I haven't been to a district convention since 2005. This tract tells me I won't be missing anything by boycotting again this year.

Quendi

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who, and what age is the youngest member of the GB of JW,s as of 2011

by the max in

Quendi

With the increase of Memorial partakers and the "new light" on "overlapping generations", there is no danger of the Governing Body becoming extinct. I daresay they'll be able to fill the positions of dying members, perhaps even expand the number (when originally constituted back in 1976, the Governing Body numbered eighteen men) until mid-century. That's assuming the WTS will still be a going concern by then.

Quendi