Posts by Sabin
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"Report it to the elders if you hear anyone in the congregation talking bad about the GB"
by hardtobeme inlast night and elder gave the bible highlights at the congregation.
he talked about apostasy.
and among other things he said: "report to the elders if you hear anyone in the congregation talking bad about the governing body".
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Sabin
COntrO13r, that's an interesting read. When info discredits others. LIKE CHILD ABUSERS. think about who benefits. LIKE CHILD ABUSERS. whether the source has ulterior motives. LIKE PROTECTING CHILDREN FROM CHILD ABUSERS. think about the damage to reputation of a person or organization. LIKE THE CHILD ABUSERS REP IN THE CONG, LIKE JW.ORG FOR COVERING UP THE CHILD ABUSERS AND NOT PROTECTING THE CHILDREN. you may read slanderous news on the internet about jw organization. LIKE THE GUIDELINES FOR BRANCH OFFICE SERVICE DESKS, THAT GB WROTE, HOW THEY CAN BEST PROTECT CHILD ABUSERS. some news maybe confidential, we should respect the right of others. LIKE THE CHILD ABUSERS. -
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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders
by stuckinamovement inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf
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Sabin
myohmyohmy. No35, when a former child molester (perhaps only known to the elders) begins attending cong meetings or when shown MERCY & isn't D, elders kindly, BUT frankly, discuss what type of action regarding children he should CLEARLY avoid. This would include not allowing children other than his own to spend the night at his home.............! Anyone see the problem here. (panorama, BBC," suffer the little children") Their the ones he will be abusing the most. Have any of these idiots actually been abused themselves? I think not. It warps the mind, that is to say it opens the child up to something they are way to young to understand, then going through the teenage years they expose themselves to further abuse. that why so many in the porn industry come from this back ground, end up on drugs, alcohol abuse etc. then these clowns expel them from the cong. When shown mercy, are they for real. When has a child abuser ever shown mercy. Q does anybody know of a single child abuser who went to the elders of their own accord before the child/parent spoke up. I can tell you NO bloody way. So how can they be repentant. We are talking about pre-pubescent children here, completely under developed, innocent. They should be D and never allowed back. The little ones have to suffer the rest of their lives why the hell shouldn't they. -
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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?
by Wasanelder Once inare you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
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Sabin
Nitty Gritty Shitty, are you a poet 2+2=5. -
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Are we seeing an unprecedented influx of newbies recently ? Welcome Guys/gals
by smiddy inare we in fact seeing more people joining this site in the last month , than what has been happening previously ?.
i tend to think there is , and i hope their is .. is anybody else seeing this ?.
i`m not delusional am i ?
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Sabin
Hello BoxofRox, we have something in common. In our pics we look like poo -
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Are we seeing an unprecedented influx of newbies recently ? Welcome Guys/gals
by smiddy inare we in fact seeing more people joining this site in the last month , than what has been happening previously ?.
i tend to think there is , and i hope their is .. is anybody else seeing this ?.
i`m not delusional am i ?
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Sabin
Thanks Smiddy nice to meet you. love the green outfit. Sabins the name. -
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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?
by Wasanelder Once inare you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
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Sabin
well I do believe you are getting gritty with nitty on this subject, I just want to say (to calm things down) nobody is saying that JWs as peops are bad. No there are some amazing JWs. For instance ME. HAHA! the problem here is the WTBTS, either they are Gods reps on earth or they are not. If they are then God by their standards is fine with turning a blind eye to child abusers. I don't happen to think he is. So the Q is nitty gritty do you think we should have greater affection for WTBTS then God. On the subject of scripture there was no need to have a law pertaining to child abuse because knowing Jehovahs views on other matters of a sexual nature there could have been no doubt in their minds what would have happened, I think stoning would have been a walk in the park. -
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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders
by stuckinamovement inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf
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Sabin
just been looking over the letter again anyone notice how its all about the molester only at the end does it mention any kind of interaction about the victim Q47 on. Look at the ridiculous counsel on Q50 & 51. I mean please, with all respect these men are window cleaners, office workers, tradies. Not that theres anything wrong with these jobs but you don't call a child psychologist to fix your T.V. No you call them when a child has been abused. Are these men stupid. I have a good mind to pull an elder to one side at a meeting an ask him " so hows your penis going, how big does it get when its erect, which hand does your wife use, did you enjoy it, how long did it take before you shot your load." You think I would get into trouble? Brazen conduct. But its perfectly acceptable for them to ask anything they want. BCG said she went through 3 court trails and yet they were easer to face then the elders. The GB should be ashamed. I read one story, 3 elders asked the victim all the details, in front of the man that raped her, asked her how wide her legs were while he was on top of her. If it was my child id blow his bollocks off.
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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders
by stuckinamovement inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf
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Sabin
As long as the elders kids are safe. which they would be cause they not gonna put their little darlings in harms way. They don't give a shit about the lowly and poor, why the hell should they. you know I had a conversation with a sister about this subject, she said well Jehovah sees all. I asked her how that helped the little boy being bent over a chair while an elder sodomized him. She just stood there with a blank expression, no feelings no anger no heart. My god these people are unbelievable. They simply don't care, I find it hard to even look at them while the make excuses for what is happening to these kids im so disgusted by the whole thing and I am a witness. Just imagine what must be happening in the third world congs where they don't have a Royal Commission it doesn't even bare thinking about. I hope Jehovah smites the bloody lot of them. -
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Going to a bad place when i die
by 060702015 ini've thought and said too much to ever gain jehovahs forgiveness and love if i want to be a christian again.
i made a topic on my unforgivable sin and blaspemy of the holy spirit.. i feel saddness everyday having no relationship with god, no religion and fear of the afterlife.
even when i was kid i feared death and the end of the world.
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Sabin
060 how you doing? you know the WTBTS says that the elders stand in their positions by Jehovahs holy spirit and since Jesus is the head of the cong he is also involved, that is the reason they say we must be obedient to them no matter what. So they are saying that Jehovah God uses his HOLY spirit and his ONLY begotten son and deliberately puts pedophiles in positions where they can have easy access to innocent children to destroy their childhoods, letting them burn with pain inside for the rest of their lives. Then they actively protect these monsters all with his approval. They have absolutely dragged Gods name through the mud and show no remorse for doing so. NOW THATS BLASPEMY -
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Are they trying to make me feel like crap?
by StarTrekAngel inso i have not reported a single hour of fs or family worship in over 8 months.
have not given a single comment in a meeting for over a year.
a few weeks ago, my brother in law, who is an ms now, approached me.
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Sabin
StarTrekAngel, just say NO. If they have your best interests at heart they wont push you, if they do push then say that (if you had my best interests at heart you wouldn't push me) and walk away. DONT feel bad about it, God isn't going to strike you down for not wanting to be a hypocrite. You have nothing to reproach yourself for. If they are doing this to you to make a point then the shame is on them.