Posts by Sabin
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Saturday, Elders response to Royal Commission
by umbertoecho inon saturday the elder and his wife turned up.
i have my reasons for not turning them away at the moment, at least, not until the completion of the rc.. i asked him about his thoughts on the rc.
he said that he thought it was easy and nothing to worry about.
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Sabin
millie210. HEY. I think you may be underestimating lots of JW. Its not that they wont be disturbed by, they don't know what to do about it. Their afraid of what they will lose. Sadly. -
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Human rights issue
by possum inhi, i am possum and have been posting for a short time just thought i would introduce myself with much trepidation.
i am a third generation ex witness.
grandparents originally lured into cult in 1920 after the death of a precious child.
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Sabin
Hey Mrs Possum, its a pleasure never a chore to read such amazing stories like yours. Thank you for sharing.
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Mandatory reporting of Child sexual abuse and the failure to report when it`s not mandatory.
by smiddy inthe jehovah`s witnesses are on record as saying they obey the law in reporting child sex abuse when it is mandatory in the state or territory where it occurred .. in other words where it is not mandatory they do not report such abuse.. they will only do so if the law of the land requires them to do so.. where is the duty of care ,the protection of the victim ,the support ,and the legal protection , he or she would get from the government sponsored systems in place to protect such victims.. they obviously do not have the victims welfare as a first priority , if they did they would report it to the relevant departments of concern as soon as they became aware of such abuse , but they do not.regardless of whether it was mandatory or not.. it obviously has to do with protecting their perceived image of themselves in the community of not having a problem with child sex abuse.. as has been stated many times : "you " / " we" do not want to drag jehovah`s name through the mud".
and as the" royal commission " focusing on jehovah`s witnesses is demonstrating , children`s welfare are not being met.. smiddy.
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Sabin
The thing is if a kid went to the elders & said my next door neighbour is touching me & he isn't a JW what would they tell them to do? I get it its a brother, if your brother came to you, you MAY advise him to get a lawyer in place because he`s your brother right, which I guess that is what they are trying to get across. BUT we are talking about a child here & in some cases many kids. One elder I know about molested 17 girls or at least that was the last count. They have absolutely nothing in place to protect them from further harm or support at the time or years down the line. That is why they have such a high suicide rate. Shepard the flock of God book then condems them further if they fail in their attempt. Leading them down a road of further self destruction. My God they have no mercy. What on earth are they thinking, Jesus isn't going to pat them on the back is he. -
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Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling Child Abuse Matters" flowchart
by jwleaks injw leaks courtesy of the australian royal commission.
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Sabin
Dino Ali is an idiot. The judge should have asked him what he would do if a fellow member of the cong was trying to murder him. I bet he wouldn't phone the branch office then. -
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Mandatory reporting of Child sexual abuse and the failure to report when it`s not mandatory.
by smiddy inthe jehovah`s witnesses are on record as saying they obey the law in reporting child sex abuse when it is mandatory in the state or territory where it occurred .. in other words where it is not mandatory they do not report such abuse.. they will only do so if the law of the land requires them to do so.. where is the duty of care ,the protection of the victim ,the support ,and the legal protection , he or she would get from the government sponsored systems in place to protect such victims.. they obviously do not have the victims welfare as a first priority , if they did they would report it to the relevant departments of concern as soon as they became aware of such abuse , but they do not.regardless of whether it was mandatory or not.. it obviously has to do with protecting their perceived image of themselves in the community of not having a problem with child sex abuse.. as has been stated many times : "you " / " we" do not want to drag jehovah`s name through the mud".
and as the" royal commission " focusing on jehovah`s witnesses is demonstrating , children`s welfare are not being met.. smiddy.
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Sabin
They don't give a shit smiddy. It will all go away in the new system. These Bastards just want to shut the kids up. There is no support for them, don't you know psycologists are worldly, they have worldly idears, they would corrupt the kids thinking & turn them from God. NO its far better to suppress it all, & then later when it comes back to haunt them & they go nuts just kick them out of the cong, cause they are bad. A time when they need love & help that's the time these fuckers decide to victimize them further. Im sorry but it makes me so mad. -
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Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling Child Abuse Matters" flowchart
by jwleaks injw leaks courtesy of the australian royal commission.
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Sabin
JW LEAKS can I ask do you know if all this info is given to all elders, or do they have to be serving in that capacity for a certain period of time? -
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Wow nov 15 wt they refuse to show love to all
by poopie inwow the artcle love your neghboor the writer is trying to squeeze thorough what he feels is a loophole.
the problem is there is no loophole in gods law of love its amazing but eventually they will come to the realization that all people need love.
keep trying to skirt around it your digging yourself into a hole.
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Sabin
dubstepped, I feel so ashamed, what you said is so true. ive done that without even giving a thought to the person living there. How could I have been so cruel. Then we go write down the persons info & pass it round the cong. Sometimes it was real personal, or criticize them for having a nice place " oh they don't want to know they have their paradise right here". So glad not to be doing it anymore. -
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Another Shocking clip From JW Australia Royal investigation Elder would not report MURDER
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfj1ecde5fy.
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Sabin
Dino Ali doesn't know the laws in QL, he obviously doesn't know the laws of the bible. Leviticus 5:1, "if someone sins because he has heard a public call to testify & he is a witness or has seen or learned about it and he does NOT report it, then he must answer for his ERROR. -
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Another Shocking clip From JW Australia Royal investigation Elder would not report MURDER
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfj1ecde5fy.
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Sabin
Ive just come on this part, I cant believe what im seeing or hearing. The arrogance, im surprised he didn't say we leave it up to the victim. Has anyone herd them say that's what they encourage child molesters to do? GO TO THE POLICE, YOU SICK BARSTAD. -
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Wow nov 15 wt they refuse to show love to all
by poopie inwow the artcle love your neghboor the writer is trying to squeeze thorough what he feels is a loophole.
the problem is there is no loophole in gods law of love its amazing but eventually they will come to the realization that all people need love.
keep trying to skirt around it your digging yourself into a hole.
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Sabin
Hey Poopie, great name. haha. im new member to. Nice to meet you. I must confess I haven't read the article, but I get what you are saying. They go on & on about having love for people like Jesus did , until it doesn't suit them, then out comes the Hebrew scrips as we are seeing in the abuse cases. So like didn't Jesus sacrifice finish the law & prophets. They have a go at the 7th day Adventists for that. Sometimes I think they wont stoning back the way they judge people. LOVE TO ALL, that's what I say.