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Posts by Sabin
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Sabin
Steve2, Thank you. However I`m not D`s, & have been a JWs most of my life. I do however have a brain of my own that work`s in conjunction with a heart. When some one is in trauma from things that have happened to them in the truth, they can suffer with diagnosable psychological disorders, such as depression, anxiety & post-traumatic stress. These are disruptive to a persons life, the victim may develop symptoms like withdrawal, nightmares & avoidance behaviour. So you see it is not necessarily in their hands. The WTBTS by their own admission knows that most people in this situation being D`s come back not for love of God but because they are lonely & afraid, having no life skill`s outside the org & no friends being that they weren't allowed them. O.K." If you repent, beg forgiveness we will warmly welcome you back, It`s in your hands. Well we all know that when God made man, he didn't give him enough blood. That is why he is incapable of using his brain & cock at the same time. So I can only assume that when you wrote that comment you were jerking off.
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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson
by thedepressedsoul infirst off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.
he's most likely on a plane already.
if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.
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Maybe he will be the next Ray Franz, his conscience may be the other end of the scale. He may have stood up to the other members & said Hey Chaps I don't think Jesus would approve of all this covering up of child abuse, I think he`s going to kick our arses if we don't do something about it and come clean. Yes we may have to start again but at least we will have honesty before Jehovah. MAYBE -
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An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing
by cofty inall jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.
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Brighid, I agree. It`s the unwritten laws that cause the biggest problems. Cofty, I sent an email to Angus Stewart explaining to him not to underestimate the power of disfellowshipping. All these men on the stand know if they cock up, bringing anything on the heads of the GB, they will be OUT. -
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Ohiamfree, thanks this is exactly the kind of thoughts I can note and put forward, Theres always a way round and you are right it has to be easily understood. Where theres a will theres a way. -
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My esteemed Ladies & Gentlemen, I`m so sick of hearing this word, "SHUNNING" Lets get one thing straight JW`s DONT that's right, i said DONT shun. We need to start calling it what it truly is "PEER VICTIMIZATION" which is a person being made into a victim by someone else, and can have psychological and physical effects. Disfellowshipping and shunning are both part of victimization. The difference is that when you shun, the emphasis of badness is on the person or object being shunned. That is how they have made it acceptable,( example: I am shunning chocolate cake. WHY? it makes me fat, I am shunning the sun. WHY? I got a skin cancer last year.) O.K maybe not the best examples however the application of the word shunning is the same when applied to a person. When you hear some one say they are shunning some one , your first response is to ask WHY?. That in it`s self allows the one doing the shunning to justify their act of cruelty, by stating that the one being shunned is of bad moral standing. If on the other hand someone said I`m victimizing that person, you wouldn't even ask, you`d think WTF! and run. The emphasise of being morally bad is placed at the feet of the one`s doing the shunning. I am studying this subject at the moment. It is my believe that instead of using the indoctrinated word of shunning, and begin to use victimization in it`s place, it MAY lesson the feelings of blame for those who find themselves in this psychological torturous situation that has lead many to take their lives. I would love to hear your own thoughts on this . I am working with Marc and Cora from England, and they will in the near future be talking about this on youtube. thanks I know it`s been a long read. -
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Passing ships in the night and the disobedient compassionate brother.
by The Marvster injust wanted to talk about two odd df'ing experiences i had; which gave me the 'personal' lesson that there are some in the wt who are definitely not militants when it comes to the whole disfellowshipping regime... .
passing ships in the night - the irony.
quite a while back, a brother turned up at my last congregation, he came to a few meetings and then i didn't see him for several weeks, and all of a sudden comes the announcement, he got df'd.
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Vidiot when one of my kids got into trouble I told them that if you think I will be shunning my child, you can sod off. Disfellowship me. It turned out to be a private reproof. Every part of my being told me that it would be wrong to treat my kid that way. -
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Dreaming
by Sabin infriends i have question to ask.
i suffered with horrific nightmares for along time.
i`m talking years.
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O.K. friends I have question to ask. I suffered with horrific nightmares for along time. I`m talking years. They usually were about animals hurting me. Crocs, bears but mostly Great White sharks. One I remember, I was standing on a rock in the sea & the water was to my waist & a great white swam towards me huge fin & opened it`s enormous mouth & bit into me. It was so real that I woke up terrified. Got myself a book, A-Z dream dictionary, started writing them down in the mornings, because I could remember every detail. Anyway I studied about why we dream & learnt that they are all part of a healing process, I`m talking psychologically here. That we shouldn't try to hinder them but let them take their cause . Which I did , I wrote it all down & then researched the subject matter, & began to understand what my sub-conscience was telling me. All things play a part, colours, numbers, people, places etc. You get the picture. Interestingly the longer I`ve stayed away from JWs the nightmares are almost none-existent, so not afraid to go to sleep. Question is this: Has anybody else had this experience or is it just me that's NUTS. SABIN.
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Governing Body member is in Australia right now!
by Anonymous1 insorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
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Anonymous1, SO sorry this has upset you. Have you thought about 60 minuets. Remember that to the GB all others in the org are cannon fodder. The elders taking the stand are shitting themselves. If they don't stand up for the org then they to will be D, & they bloody know it. -
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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.
by umbertoecho inhello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
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Umbertoecho, You are amazing woman. An inspiration for others through your bravery. Facing all that has happened & surviving. You should be applauded. I hope you go on to find much love in your life & are given all the support you deserve to have. HUG FOR YOU.