Jehovah creator of the universe. The heavens & the earth & everything in it. How deep is his wisdom. Dynamic energy, power & glory. BUT A CRAP AUTHOR, you cant understand a bloody word he writes.
Posts by Sabin
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15Are Witnesses Allowed to Read Bible by itself
by Brighid ini've been away from the boards so long that i had to create a new account but recent events have brought me back - i've missed this place!
anyway, i heard a former witness being interviewed the other day that said the witnesses were now being highly discouraged to read the bible by itself (without wt literature) on their own.
this seems over the top even for the witnesses.
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Regional Convention in Scotland
by The Searcher inwalking towards my seat after lunch, i made eye-contact with a j.w.
male walking towards me.
as we were passing, he smiled and said 'hello', so i replied with, 'hello'.. well, if a member of the g.b.
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Sounds like Mark Sanderson really SUCKS you in with his je-HOOVER talks
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Australian Branch Stats?
by Marvin Shilmer ini'm working on some statistical analysis of child abuse data made public by the royal commission.
while i'm working on this, can someone here do me a favor and look up the peak publisher figures reported by watchtower for the australian branch for each of the years from 2005 through 2014?
my thanks in advance.
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Nitty-Gritty why do you keep missing the point. Don't you get it, it`s more than just numbers. They LIED! for gods sake woman, they told all of us that these wicked men would NEVER hold privileges in the org. That's why so many parents trusted the elders, pioneers, MS. Don't you think if they had known the truth they would have been more alert. They say their representatives of Jehovah, who cannot lie. This isn't a mistake its deliberate, they knew. The kingdom of God belongs to these one`s. To the children & they have knowingly put them in danger. Everyone of those men put in the witness box had only one concern. PROTECTING THE ORG, not Jehovahs name & not the kids. GET IT. -
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Steve2, well I will have to eat my words. I thought you were being an ass. You weren't. SORRY SORRY SORRY. will you please forgive me.
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P.S. Don`t answer back because I will ignore you. -
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Steve2, Thank you. However I`m not D`s, & have been a JWs most of my life. I do however have a brain of my own that work`s in conjunction with a heart. When some one is in trauma from things that have happened to them in the truth, they can suffer with diagnosable psychological disorders, such as depression, anxiety & post-traumatic stress. These are disruptive to a persons life, the victim may develop symptoms like withdrawal, nightmares & avoidance behaviour. So you see it is not necessarily in their hands. The WTBTS by their own admission knows that most people in this situation being D`s come back not for love of God but because they are lonely & afraid, having no life skill`s outside the org & no friends being that they weren't allowed them. O.K." If you repent, beg forgiveness we will warmly welcome you back, It`s in your hands. Well we all know that when God made man, he didn't give him enough blood. That is why he is incapable of using his brain & cock at the same time. So I can only assume that when you wrote that comment you were jerking off.
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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson
by thedepressedsoul infirst off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.
he's most likely on a plane already.
if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.
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Maybe he will be the next Ray Franz, his conscience may be the other end of the scale. He may have stood up to the other members & said Hey Chaps I don't think Jesus would approve of all this covering up of child abuse, I think he`s going to kick our arses if we don't do something about it and come clean. Yes we may have to start again but at least we will have honesty before Jehovah. MAYBE -
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An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing
by cofty inall jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.
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Brighid, I agree. It`s the unwritten laws that cause the biggest problems. Cofty, I sent an email to Angus Stewart explaining to him not to underestimate the power of disfellowshipping. All these men on the stand know if they cock up, bringing anything on the heads of the GB, they will be OUT. -
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Ohiamfree, thanks this is exactly the kind of thoughts I can note and put forward, Theres always a way round and you are right it has to be easily understood. Where theres a will theres a way. -
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My esteemed Ladies & Gentlemen, I`m so sick of hearing this word, "SHUNNING" Lets get one thing straight JW`s DONT that's right, i said DONT shun. We need to start calling it what it truly is "PEER VICTIMIZATION" which is a person being made into a victim by someone else, and can have psychological and physical effects. Disfellowshipping and shunning are both part of victimization. The difference is that when you shun, the emphasis of badness is on the person or object being shunned. That is how they have made it acceptable,( example: I am shunning chocolate cake. WHY? it makes me fat, I am shunning the sun. WHY? I got a skin cancer last year.) O.K maybe not the best examples however the application of the word shunning is the same when applied to a person. When you hear some one say they are shunning some one , your first response is to ask WHY?. That in it`s self allows the one doing the shunning to justify their act of cruelty, by stating that the one being shunned is of bad moral standing. If on the other hand someone said I`m victimizing that person, you wouldn't even ask, you`d think WTF! and run. The emphasise of being morally bad is placed at the feet of the one`s doing the shunning. I am studying this subject at the moment. It is my believe that instead of using the indoctrinated word of shunning, and begin to use victimization in it`s place, it MAY lesson the feelings of blame for those who find themselves in this psychological torturous situation that has lead many to take their lives. I would love to hear your own thoughts on this . I am working with Marc and Cora from England, and they will in the near future be talking about this on youtube. thanks I know it`s been a long read.