Posts by Sabin

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Introducing Myself

by Peony in

i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!

i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).

had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!

Sabin

Hello Peony, so nice to meet you. This forum is like a breath of fresh air after being in the Borg. Your gonna love it. SABIN

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Go on welfare!

by life is to short in

i am going to make this short.

i ran into a older jw women who i have known my whole life.

she is pushing 80 and will never change.

A lot of them sponge off others on top of claiming from the government. We had an elder/pioneer come round our house running down the org, saying he should get help because he was the oldest elder & he didn't have the income, how was he going to attend the pioneer meetings & go on field service for the co`s visit. My husband is the most generous man I know, asked if he could do anything to help & the elder said "100 dollars wouldn't go a miss". My husband gave it to him. Turns out they got more money than us. Nether the less they turned up couple of weeks later bragging about how they had managed to get a 6,000 dollar car off a sister who`s husband had been dead for only 3 weeks. He left her with 250,000 life insurance. She is only in her early 40`s, they bought the car round to show us, I couldn't even go out to look at it I was so disgusted. Then they told us "that was only part of the deal," & announced she was also paying for them to have a 15,000 holiday. Oh how Jehovah has provided for them. They are a f...ing evil couple. The things I could tell you. It would blow a hole in your pants. They are nothing more than a bunch of thieves.

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have you been moved by something you have read.

by Sabin in

i found this book by carmel reilly, it`s called dear god.

childrens letters to god from around the world.

i promise you that if you are having a bad day this book what ever your believes will lift your spirits.

Sabin

I found this book by Carmel Reilly, it`s called Dear God. Childrens letters to God from around the world. I promise you that if you are having a bad day this book what ever your believes will lift your spirits. The kids are between 5 to 10. I fully recommend this as a must. these are some of my fav`s. Dear God, Do you talk to Santa Claus about who has been good & bad? You can see everyone so you can help him. I`ve been very good this year so I am going to get some presents. Goodbye. Laura. Dear God, I have been praying for the President because he has so many difficult decisions to make & needs your help. Love Frida. Dear God, We live in the house next to the church, so we are your neighbours. Love Neil.

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venting: My wife is in cult mode again! she tried to start a fight..

by goingthruthemotions in

so when i was at luch today, my wife was in full cult mode.

she started in on me about us not being able to hang with other witnesses and when i go to the meetings with her that i don't talk with nobody nor pay attention and act angry.

i told her that i don't want to fight and i have better things to do than argue.

Sabin

GTTM. I am trying to think back when I was fully involved & my hubby was fighting it all the way & I think there is a lot of pressure on women in the JDub`s. For instance they read that scripture, "won without a word". It`s almost like their saying if you cant get or keep your husband in then you are a bad wife. So you the wife have failed Jehovah. I know that sounds crazy but really thats the roll of the wife in the org isn't it. We had a big row about it one day my hubby went off the deep end shouting & swearing at me about all the hypocrisy going on, he was never gonna join & I was just broken. I felt that his feelings were a reflection on my not being a capable wife. Which I now know is crap. I remember talking to an older sister, She was so impressed by my comments concerning my husband, yes he is not perfect but I always praised him I never put him down. She said most sisters in an divided house hold have nothing but bad things to say. When you truly analysis this it`s simple, she has lost you to the world, worldlies are going to die, because they don't love Jah. & maybe that because she has failed. At least I bet if you listen to her words you will hear the anxiety of what others think, & it wont be kind. So she will run you down to counteract the unsaid opinions of others that she will be hearing in their looks. At least that is what I remember feeling even though at the time I couldn't see it. Hope this helps you to see it from her side. Sorry if I`ve totally missed the mark.

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Why Me?

by John Aquila in

do you ever wonder why out of all the witnesses, you are the one that woke up?

i wonder many times why me.

i know many men and women that are much, much better persons than me; either they are much smarter, more humble, kinder, more successful, or just better persons all around.

Sabin

John Aquila, tell me this, why didn't all those people wake up when Jesus was in front of them? The religious leaders looking for the son of God & they missed him. Why? I think sometimes people just don't like to be wrong, it`s to much like hard work like being in a comfortable marriage there is no chemistry but it would be to much bother to do something about it. I think a lot of J Dub`s are aware that it`s not right but they are happy so don't rock the boat. I`ve often thought with this R.C. going on what the hell is wrong with these people it`s child abuse, not some disagreement over some doctrine, my husband tells me they don't want to know, they don't want to question it. It makes me feel mad but he`s so right. I think it`s what we call apathy.

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Had to go to a JW funeral yesterday.

by Crazyguy in

it's amazing how ones shun former witnesses or faders.

a couple of people said high to me that know i do not go but the rest no.

but the main reason i post is how ridiculous the funeral talk was.

Sabin

We got slammed for not going to an older sisters funeral, but I know the bitch knew her grandson was molesting kid`s & said nothing so I would be fucked if I was going to go. I got no time for people like that dead or alive.

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The conventions and the memorial are a pain in the butt for me.

by John Aquila in

i can imagine those of you who have a spouse that is not awake and how hard it must be.

i have a 90 year old mom who is a jw and still puts in 12 hrs a month in field service.

the brothers and sisters are always picking her up for conventions, meetings and memorials and as much as i try to avoid them, there are times when i just cant.

Sabin

Well said LisaRose, as an orge they are responsible for about 15000 suicides & attempted suicides every year, cause of their wicked shunning polices. Can there be a bigger sin than murder? Child abuse I hear you cry, & where do they stand on that one. Assholes.

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Jehovah's Witness Claims Surgeon Refused to Operate

by OrphanCrow in

jehovah's witnesses are unreasonable in the way they expect the larger community to respond to their no blood policy.

the medical community is too often held hostage by their insistence on adhering to tan erroneous interpretation of an old book.. jehovah's witness claims surgeon refused to operate.

(*full article at link).

Sabin

Oh yes Mr William Clinton you want your conscience on the matter of blood to be excepted, your religious freedom. But what of the Doctors conscience, of not wanting as he may of believed to risk a patients life?

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The BEST day of your life-------and the WORST day of your life?

by eyeuse2badub in

this topic may have been an op previously but i didn't get an opportunity to comment so here goes;.

mine are pretty simple;.

it was the day i married my beautiful wife of 49 years.

Sabin

Best day of my life, apart from the holding my kid`s for the first time was the first kiss from my husband. 1st July 1993. He kissed me on the door step just inside my house OMG it was like electric makes my heart feel warm even thinking about it. Then we just stood there for an hour in each others arms & I told him he was everything I ever dreamed of in a man. We both knew in that moment it was for life. Within six weeks of meeting he had moved in & that was that. He is still to this day the love of my life. The worst day is yet to come when I disassociate from this cult & have to say goodbye to my beautiful children as they are both devout witnesses. Not looking forward to that.

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Are There Good People Out There?

by LaurenM in

even though i'm no longer mentally a jw (i still technically am) i do recognize that there are some benefits to being raised one.

for example, the first (and only so far) wordly guy i was involved with had to smoke weed every day and got drunk all the time and that was his idea of fun.

i couldn't help but feel bad for him.

Sabin

I think that people are people where ever you go. A lot comes down to luck. Right place right time. I`ve met amazing women J Dub`s & not who have ended up with the most awful men, & haven't had the strength to walk away & then there`s other`s who have found the strength to stay. I know it sounds like a contradiction but each persons trials & the way they deal with them, is as individual as the person themselves. In the J Dub`s we are taught that we are part of a big family which makes us vulnerable to those who are scrupulous on the inside because we willingly trust that their motives are good & taught those on the outside are the enemy under Satan`s control so we do not learn to trust our own judgement or listen to our inner voice, we are as babes which again makes us easy targets for the mean. Stop giving people the benefit of the doubt, I`m not saying you should prejudge them in a negative way I`m saying stay neutral, gain more info. Find out a bit of their history. If a guy cheated on his last girlfriend then it`s likely he will cheat on you. Be honest with yourself about your strengths & weaknesses . If something bad happens you aren't alone & you aren`t to blame. Know in your heart you are good. That is certainly what comes across in your words on the forum, every one else here sees it.