Posts by Sabin

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An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

http://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.

he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.

Sabin

You are most welcome, we are not a bad bunch on here, please don't leave over one discussion that didn't go to well. You will find that some times when one of our fellow forum friends is hurt we all jump to defend, to protect. Especially those who have experienced being brutally & unjustly treated by JW's leaders/elders.

The reason I suggest about those policies is so you can see the lies that those at the top are telling to those like your friends who would be considered at the bottom. The sad fact is that many of us have defended the org & in my own case would have gladly died for it only to be devastated to discover that we were played for fools. Now most passionately (not always in the best of ways) would wish to spare others like yourself that pain. That is the basic fact of the matter.

If you have no joy, please if you have time take a look at the Australian Royal Commission & Jehovah's Witnesses, you will have it straight from the horses mouth. No Care, No compassion, No justice, No love for these poor innocent children who now number into 10's of 1000's around the world.

jwfacts

jwsurvey

AAWA2014

jwstruggle

you could also take a look at Steven Hassan book, Combating Cult Mind Control.

I am a Jehovah's witness, I do believe in God in his son Christ Jesus & the bible that tells us at proverbs 18:15 "The heart of the understanding one acquires knowledge,& the ear of the wise one seeks to find knowledge". The facts are what they are, some desire to be in the "Truth" while others like myself & many on this forum desire "THE Truth". I hope this is of help to you.

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Something nice, non-jw

by FadeToBlack in

i was out with my 4 dogs last night around 10:30 under a bright moon.

it was frosty (-4 c).

i heard some noise in the field behind my house (my backyard is a national forest).

Sabin

We looked after a dog for a couple who went on holiday in what I can only describe as snake heaven. In the middle of summer, humidity in the 90's in a house that has a tin roof & no air-conditioning. You would open the door to see Eastern Browns, Taipans, Red bellies all snakes, all venomous. So I go to bed leaving my hubby watching t.v. Just dozing off when he starts shouting, so I run down stairs just as he is coming up with his arms out stretched to protect me, swearing his head off. As he had been watching t.v. a snake went through his legs, he froze until it had passed. Cause he only had the light from the t.v. & a small lamp we couldn't see it properly only that it was about 6 foot, & the dog wouldn't go near it. So we got in the truck, left everything unlocked & on & drove home.

The next day thinking it was most likely a Python we went back looking for it. We pulled everything out even the oven, no sign. In the main living area there was a big book shelf with a big bowl on the top & my hubby decided that it was in there. So, he got a stick reached up & gently tapped on the bowl. He was right, it was in the book shelf, but not in the bowl. I saw his whole body go stiff, he turned his head & with a pale face & eye's like saucers said "I found the Snake" it was on the shelf by his head looking straight at him, thank God it was a python. It was so funny I just cracked up laughing at him. Some-one we know who keeps them came & got her & we decided we would take the dog back to our place to sleep. I have to say though she was beautiful.

30

I put up lights this year

by Zoos in

i have always wanted to do that.. nothing special.

in fact, i have learned i'm not very good at it.

i have many talents.

Sabin

Zoos I so look forward to seeing them. Is it the rebellious side of you coming out? is this your first xmas? Have fun. Oh BTW make sure you put up mistletoe, get lots of kisses.

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An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

http://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.

he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.

Sabin

Label licker, Yes you do have a right to feel sad & angry & every one on here supports you. This has been a trigger for you that has brought back terrible feelings. Nerd in the brain, is not trying to hurt you personally & I have to say really has only one experience to speak of with the JW's. When some-one hasn't been exposed to the bigger picture (which isn't their fault) what else can they say. In general I find that in any organization there will be the righteous & unrighteous, then the small group of the GOOD who are more concerned with the un-justices brought on others more so than on themselves.

Nerd in the Brain, thank you for taking the time to explain yourself that was kind. I do hope after reading Label lickers experience you can find some room in your heart to understand her response. And may I suggest that you ask your friend to show you the October 2012 policies on chid abuse within the JW organization. Then you will have a better idea of which group your friends truly are in (righteous/un-righteous/good). You will probably find they don't know anything about these policies, because the top dogs in the org have a habit of lying by omission to the lowly members. I am glad that you have found some good friends wether JW's or no.

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The Shocking Origins Of...

by freemindfade in

i can't deal with this crap witnesses plaster on social media (facebook).

"the shocking origins of christmas!

" first off no one cares, leave the people alone.

Sabin

Xmas, yeah it can be nice with all it's pretty things & giving of gifts & I guess if you never got to celebrate it as a kid you may feel like you missed out on something. I think personally that just comes down to how good your home life is. I worked in schools, watched the rich kids talking bout all the presents they got, the look on the faces of the poorer ones was not a pleasant experience. Sure if you don't give a shit bout those poorer kids it wouldn't have mattered, but I did. Xmas is like everything else in life, it can be a happy time for some & a time of sorrow for others. I love the fact that so many organizations at that time of year put themselves out to help poorer families, provide shelter for the homeless, & make a xmas dinner for the hungry. They are the unsung heroes for this time of year. when JW's do things like that they can moan all they like. But they don't EVER. So they should shut their mouths.

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Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve

by Tech49 in

jw
friends

a new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.

dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.

we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.

Sabin

Tech49, They want to "chat" about us wilfully associating with DF & DA family members. & that we were evidently ignoring WT counsel.

However you were not ignoring Jesus counsel, Treat others, how you want them to treat you. Do not resist him that is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him. Continue to love your enemies, & pray for those persecuting you that you may prove yourselves sons of your farther who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon the wicked people & good & makes it rain upon righteous people & un-righteous.

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Of Minions and Smurfs

by oppostate in

didn't take too long for the minions to join the smurfs as being satanic in the minds of some jw's.

whadda-bunch-of-bull-hukey-puckiesi!.

this showed up on jw facebook timelines today.. .

Sabin

They must be BANANNAS

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

Sabin

Wow what a great thread, I can see why they protect the child abusers & not the victims. They use the FS & donations as a measuring stick. The pedo's are loyal to the borg, the victims are not. The abusers who continue to do mino & pay large sums into contribution box are the sheep, the victims who speak out showing disrespect to their so called brother's, giving them a bad name are the goat's. That is basically it isn't it. They don't want people who try to display the qualities of Christ, they want one's that do what they are told to the letter by the Gestapo Body, even if it means children are being raped, women are being abused, dying through lack of medical care or suicide cause they cant take it anymore. Bastards.

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Since you left, have you become more moral?

by Coded Logic in

respect.

sympathy.

gossip.

Sabin

Moral- based on a sense of right & wrong according to conscience: concerned with or relating to the distinction between good & bad or right & wrong behaviour:

Simply put YES

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Recent announcement on literature placements

by dbq407 in

i find it interesting that the other night they announced that literature is not to be left indiscriminately.

they said to only leave literature if the householder engages you in conversation.

it used to be that they would try to get any literature into every hand of every person.

Sabin

They are aware that with all the controversy about child abuse they are at some stage going to lose their tax exemption rights or pay out large sums of money to the authorities/victims. They are hiding it in off shore accounts under different titles so they cannot give what they don't have. "We would pay but we cant cause we don't have the money, it's not ours". It's quite simple to see when you realise that they are a money making business. It's got F...k all to do with God, he's nothing more to them but camouflage to hide what's really going down.

They should be called the JAY-hovah's witnesses after the great jay of northern America, notorious for stealing.