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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #15

by ozziepost in

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owyergoin' on this fine weekend?

here in new south wales, it's been beaut, brilliant, great and yet it's still terrible!

'cos we haven't seen rain in....well, we've forgotten.... and the eastern states are gripped by one of the worst droughts on record.

While in the BORG, I've read everything the BORG had to offer. Every publication From 1800's - 1990's, every article in the W&A from 1985-1997. I loved it all, I even use to write article reviews for personal usage. However, I outgrew the BORG, and that's when my eyes began to open. Prior to leaving the BORG, I've read maybe 2 or 3 non-jw books. But once I left, I started reading everything under the sun. I can't believe how much ignorance I was for all those years. Anyway, I love reading non-fiction books, I was living in fiction long enough :)

Peace - LL

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U.S. War with Iraq

by Crazy151drinker in

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i just wanted to get some opinions on this matter from everyone.

support here in the states is pretty solid but very weak in europe.

i will make my prediction (ie you know) that we will be having a little sand party within a year.

Larry

Yes, That is a MAJOR concern for me b/c I would be deployed. Life is pretty good right now, and that would 'monkey wrench' things. Beside, I'm schedule to go to Egypt in Oct. but the way things are going it doesn't look good :(

The Army is like Bethel - The rank and file are always to last to know.

England (Tony Blair-Up) wants to go to war more than US. I think the key to finding out if we will have a sand party is to watch the news. Usually the gov't will try and gain public support via the media. So if Saddam is looking more and more like the evil one, then we are prime for battle. Also, watch the economy - War is for good business.

That's why I sign out with 'Peace' - I want Peace in the Middle East.

Peace - LL

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X-Mas Bonus

by Larry in

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as a dub, did you accept the x-mas bonus?

if so, did you feel hypocritical?

this is, of course, b4 the qfr came out saying it's ok to do so.. peace -

Larry

As a Dub, did you accept the x-mas bonus? If so, did you feel hypocritical?

This is, of course, b4 the QFR came out saying it's ok to do so.

Peace -

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Who Are We ?

by Dia in

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i'm interested in exploring a few things.

to try to keep these two topics separate, i'm going to attribute the letters a and b to them.

a for 'who's on the board?

Larry

A1) We were raised in it without our consent.

Regarding:

B1) JWs are comfortable and unashamed of cheating on some legal things like taxes -

I knew of some Bethelites who were in a car accident and the driver was not covered in the rental car insurance. So of course they had to lie on the accident report in order for them to be covered b/c the car was totaled.

B2) JWs like to participate in the 'goodies' of various holidays, without being 'part of' them. They do so by 'celebrating' on a nearby date and leaving out 'symbols' of the holiday.

True, my former supervisor asked me why I could accept a x-mas bonus when I didn't celebrate x-mas? She also said out of all the years she worked there, only one JW ever turned down a x-mas bonus. I said "I don't look at it as a x-mas bonus but as an end of the year appreciation check :)

B3) JWs have very superficial relationships with other JWs and must like it that way?

Kinda - I recall a 'good' buddy of mine was real close with an elder from another congregation. But once that elder left or got booted, this guy turned on him instantly! He had no mercy or consideration for him what so ever. Of course the same thing happened to me, but that's another story :)

B4) JWs have a deep need to believe that they have a superior kind of knowledge about things in the Bible.

Yeah, there is this Dub on my job, but he doesn't know I'm an ex-jw. I've heard him curse and stuff, b/c he was trying to act cool around me. Anyway, as I was talking to another co-worker about something biblical, she said let me ask 'so and so' he knows his bible. So she asked him and he came out with this attitude like 'how can I help you, the bible is my thing'. So yes, many think they know their bible, but they only know there bible more than most because many folks don't read the bible. He is only knowledgeable by default :)

Peace - LL

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Stupid parent tricks

by LuckyLucy in

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as a child when i would cry (a big no no in our family).

my dad would say" if you keep crying i will give you a reason to cry".

if we spoke at the dinner table, he would reach across the table (did'nt matter how far away you were..his arm seem to grow) he would thump our heads as hard as he could(leaving a bruise).

Larry

Before I had my 2 cent, I just want to say - Reading those experiences really emphases why this broad is needed. Writing is therapeutic and I'm sure we all feel better after we express our feelings.

As Lucy, in the Peanuts, would say "The Doctor is in - 2 cents please. Simon my 2 cents is in the mail

No, I didn't get many beatings, but my mother sure would try and make ya feel guilty. I remember around the mid 70's one of the CO was visiting our Hall (matter of fact I think it ws JR Brown!) and I fell asleep. My mother was visibly upset over that - She berated me and said "How could you fall asleep on such important information!" If looks could kill, I would have been a goner :) I wonder how important that life saving information is now :)

I think one of the main reason most of my family are witness is because of my mother - I'm sure if they thought about leaving the BORG, they would be concern about her reaction more than the BORG's reaction. Yes, Moms is an excellent 'CULT-ta-va-tor.'

Peace - LL

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When God Was A Women

by Larry in

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after reading a few threads about womens role in society, it reminded me of a book i recently read entitled: "when god was a women" by merlin stone.

here's a few quotes from her book:.

"diodorus described a nation in libya as follows: all authority was vested in the women, who discharged every kind of public duty.

Larry

After reading a few threads about Womens role in society, It reminded me of a book I recently read entitled: "When God Was A Women" by Merlin Stone. Here's a few quotes from her book:

"Diodorus described a nation in Libya as follows: All authority was vested in the women, who discharged every kind of public duty. The men looked after domestic affairs just as the women do among ourselves and do as they were told by the wives. They were not allowed to undertake war service or to exercise any functions of government, or to fill any public office, such as might have given them more spirit to set themselves up against the women. The children were handled over immediately after birth to the men, who reared them on milk and other foods suitable to their age."

""Herodotus of Greece, several centuries before Diodorus, wrote that in Egypt. "Women go in the market place, transact affairs and occupy themselves with business, while the husbands stay home and weave." His contemporary, Sophocles, stated that "Their thoughts and actions all are modeled on Egyptian ways, For there the men sit at the loom indoors while the wives work aboard for their daily bread.""

""Diodorus wrote of a nation in this area in which "women held the supreme power and royal authority." According to his reports the queen of this land assigned the task of spinning wool and other domestic duties to the men, while law was established by the queen. He claimed that the rights to the throne belonged to the queen's daughter and succeeding women in the family line."

Peace - LL

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An Interesting PRO-JW Site

by Mister Biggs in

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i stumbled across this site today.

i wonder who runs it.

has anyone ever heard of this site before?

Larry

OMG - I remember this site back in the days c. 1996. It was my frist web site re: JW's ( HYPERGLOSSARY of American English Hacker THEOCRATESE by Lynn David Newton.) I even printed his glossary. At first I had reservations about this stuff on the Net (I was an Elder at the time.) Then I said 'what the heck,' what harm can it do?' This lead to my investigation into the BORG via the Net - The rest is history :) If I can recall he had to remove his web-site b/c the BORG ask him to (something like that.) I also sent him a few E-mails and he responded, of course I forgot what was said. I think Newton is still an active JW - but I'm not sure. Always, thanks for the memories of being a naive JW thinking the 'Net could be a good thing for Kingdom Interest :)

Peace - LL

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Fade out......

by SpiceItUp in

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well i came..... i saw..... i posted....... i vented..... i shared..... i cried...... i laughed...... i made jedi...... i officially got on the crush thread..... and i officially got on the anti-crush thread..... i met some great people...... i met some not-so-great people.... now i have seemed to have lost my passion for posting..... i will not completely disappear ...... but hence starts my fade out...... i will still be available by email...... and those who im me please continue to do so...... i'll be around...... just not in great abundence...... (fade to end...............).

spice

Larry

Spice - Love your 'fading' poem, so I decided to check out your website. Anybody that is a Nina Simone, Moby and X-File's fan is OK in my book :) Looking at your site just emphazes how much we don't know about each other. Often times we read someone's post and form an opinion of them, as if their post covers everything aspect of their life.

Thanks for sharing and may the journey continue.

Peace - LL

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Mr. Coffee

by Larry in

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anybody remembers 'mr.

coffee' an agitator @ bethel c. 1980's.

he was a bum(?

Larry

Thanks for the feedback. When I was younger I remember Mr. Coffee was a 'proverbial saying' relating to anything negative :) Now that I'm one of 'those' people I wonder if Mr. Coffee had some legitimate points. And I wonder if he will be at the silentlamb demo.

Peace - LL

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Should JWs use Zeros?/Garden of Eden

by badboy in

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i understand they are of bablyonish origin!.

same article about iraq said that legend says that al qrnah is site of garden of eden!

Larry

Interesting - I was just reading a book entitled "Zero The Biography of a Dangerous Idea" by Charles Seife. Yes the most advanced way of writing numbers in the ancient world was the Babylonian style of counting, and thanks to this style zero finally appeared in the East, in the Fertile Crescent of present day Iraq.

Here's some interesting quotes from the book -

"The Babylonians invented it, the Greeks banned it, the Hindus worshipped it, and the Christian Church used it to fend off heretics. Today it's a timebomb ticking in the heart of astrophysics.

"In the history of culture the discovery of zero will always stand out as one of the greatest single achievements of the human race" - Tobias Danzig.

"Zero's absence would stunt the growth of mathematics, stifle innovation in science, and incidentally, make a mess of the calendar."

"The infinite and the void had powers that frightened the Greeks."

"Except for the Mayans, nobody else had a year zero or started a month with day zero."

"Before Arabic numerals came around, money counters had to make do with an abacus or a counting board. The German called the counting board a Rechenbank, which is why we call moneylenders banks."

"Filippo Brunelleschi, who first demonstrated the power of an infinite zero: he created a realistic painting by using a vanishing point."

"Zero had transformed the art world."

Peace - LL