Posts by Larsguy

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The philosophy class

by Scorpion in

a college student was in a philosophy class which had a discussion about god's existence.

"has anyone in this class seen god?

"has anyone is this class heard our professor's brain?

Nice little story, but actually, post 1992, the JIOR(anointed ones) have been seeing more miracles and, of course, some of us, like myself have had personal interviews with the Heavenly Father. This doesn't help the masses but it sort of leaves us out of the position of denying God.

One recent physical miracle occurred with imagery in clouds that was photographed, some of which match a consistent image shown to the JIOR anointed that has a representation in one of the WTS publications on page 198 of the "Revelation Book".

So now, in fact, some of us are seeing a bit more direct evidence of God and certainly holy spirit and it does affect the "blind faith" aspect of believing that most persons know.

Again, as I said, this doesn't help those who have not had these extracorporal experiences, but it leaves those of us who have out of the debate. Which is okay, we were all believers anyway.

L.G.

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Two Flood Stories Conflict

by JosephAlward in

17 i am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it.

19 you are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you.

20 two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive.

Larsguy

Thanks Joseph for your post, you notice more little details I always miss and I always learn from your post.

Apparently in this case we've learned there must have been TWO GLOBAL FLOODS, apparently one right after the other one. The first flood might not have killed everything and so the second flood was more damaging and that's the one that must have had the water going over the highest mountains.

Thanks for this information, I learn more Biblical facts from you, it's amazing. I don't know why you are not a believer, you know more about the Bible than most Biblicalists!!!

L.G.

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IsThe "Slave Class" Biblical?

by stevieb1 in

i'm currently involved in an in-depth study of the wt society's doctrine of the "faithful and discreet slave" of matthew 24:45-47 and hope to present my research to an inquiring jw elder.

i am trying to counter some of the claims made in the following reference:- insight on the scriptures vol 1, pp.

805-806. here is a quote from p.806 which adequately describes the society's understanding of the "slave class" .

Larsguy

The idea of the slave class has to be put into the context of what Jesus would be doing during the last generation. Thus I reference you to the fact that two scriptures show Jesus investing in three slaves in particular and at another time 10 different "slaves". When he "goes away to secure kingly power" (Luke) he returns to inspect the work of these slaves and each does well EXCEPT ONE, a sluggish slave who buries the Lord's money so that it does not even collect interest in a bank. He is condemned then as the "evil slave."

This "evil slave" is the focus of many other parables but is the general reference here in Matthew as well where this slave could have turned out to be faithful and discrete, or could end up being an evil slave and have what is charged to him given to others.

Now for AChristian's reference, please note this determination of when that PARTICULAR slave is decided to be faithful or evil doesn't happen until Christ's second coming, that's the seeing for the FDS vs evil slave.

But we do know from the other scriptures that this PARTICULAR slave, does, indeed become the evil slave and not the FDS. But, in order to be a slave that is kicked OUT, he must be first inside God's arrnagement in the beginning.

So, yes, there IS a specific slave class that would operate during the "last generation" charged with feeding some of God's anointed ones in the temple organization. That "slave class" indeed would be the leadership of the witness organization. However, Christ did not appear in 1914 but in 1992 per critical Biblical chronology. It is at that point that the returned Messiah has to determine if this "slave class" was faithful and should be rewarded or was unfaithful. Of course, we know the WTS leaders are unfaithful and comprise the "evil slave" so they are not the FDS. But they ARE the slave referenced here since they are in charge of God's organization.

Please note a critical reference to their apostasy shows them as the Lamb-Dragon-Beast in Revelation, the companion to the 666-Beast which represents all of Christendom and their fantasy TRINITY-666-DOCTRINE. But note that Christendom comes out of the SEA whereas the Lamb-Dragon beast comes out of the EARTH! The earth represents God's organization and the Lamb resembles Christ's anointed followers but speaks like a dragon and thus becomes apostate. This proves that the apostate evil slave must originate within god's chosen temple organization, which indeed, is the organization of the witnesses.

So in summary:

YES, there is a specific "slave class" fulfilled by the leaders of the WTS. And yes the reference in Matthew is to them POTENTIALLY being the "faithful and discrete slave" class OR being the evil slave class when Christ comes to inspect near the end of the last generation which ends in 1994. Unfortunately, they end up not being the FDS but the evil slave class.

But all of this must be kept in mind with the fact that there are OTHER SLAVES who were sent out who were successful and there are "other sheep not of this fold", this fold being called a "little flock".

With that in mind, we again can reference where the coin originally invested to the evil slave that he buried is given to the first slave who had a 10-fold increase!!! So the one with the most success will get what the evil slave mismanaged.

What does that mean?

It means that at some point, the largest body of secret "witnesses" will absorb the runoff of the true wheat within the witness organization. What he has will go to others, that which is not rejected, that is. This is the organization where the "sheep must be separated from the goats" and then Christ will lead his sheep out.

So that's what's really going on with the FDS issue. No, the GB is not the FDS prophesied, but they ARE the "evil slave", Lamb-Dragon Beast prophesied since they are in charge of the temple organization, which is that of Jehovah's witnesses.

L.G.

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

Dear peacefulpete,

I'm fascinated by the pagan versus the Judeo-Christian doctrines since that is where a lot of my research began.

But here's ANOTHER ONE to add to your similaries. The ELEUSINIAN mysteries are about Persephone and her mother who fretted over her dying and wasn't content until she got her back. In the NT that fits nearly precisely the woman with the Drachma coin who loses it and then frets and frets until she finds it. Generally, the woman is considered to represent God who suffers over "lost sheep" in general. But in reality, the lost drachma coin represents the MESSIAH at the second coming since he is the "prodigal son" who was lost for a while then returned. So the stories are parallel and suggests that Satan directly or the doctrine in general about the nature of the second coming as the "lost sheep" prodigal son was known in advance.

The parallel seems just too coincidental to me. Haven't quite made up my mind whether Satan is mocking God or God is mocking Satan, but likely it's a little of both I'm afraid. God tricked Satan in the Garden of Eden, that test was really for him and not necessarily Adam and Eve and all their children. As it is, God saves the children who would have basically been saved but we gain a Satan-free world via the experience. Thus Satan would be very, very resentful of God for having tricked him with the "pentaly of sin is death" law since the resurrection law nullifies it. After all, who cares if you die now for a short while if you come back to live forever? So God just had ALL his children die and he brings back only the good ones and leaves the wicked ones dead. Literally burning children up by having them pass through the fire was Satan's way of mocking God's arrangement for the Ransom sacrifice.

So I definitely agree there are direct similarities, but who came up with what first I'm afraid will remain a matter of debate with me.

But fascinating topic, for sure! How the pagans knew the second coming Messiah would be a "lost sheep" in sheol for a while like Persephone in the "mysteries" has me wondering. Pagan doctrine does parallel Christian doctrine in many ways, amazingly!!!

Who influenced whom, is the real question. For a later debate I suppose.

Take care and have a nice day!

L.G.

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

Knowing how religions form and evolve, reasonable people would suspect early christian writers utilized literary license to promote their savior figure.As I've said in other threads the coincidences are numerous and specific.This evidence requires honest consideration.The proof you would have to have that these events occurred in the life of Jesus would have be very weighty.More than the need to believe.

This is an interesting topic and an interesting and true GENERAL theory, but on close examination of religious doctrine, you must also consider the COMMON SOURCE theory which would show varying but similar doctrines coming from a common source.

That would reflect upon the fact that a lot of common knowledge was present at the time immediately after the flood and those general facts became distorted into the various pagan religions. Case in point is the ancient mother goddess "Ishtar" who was used to depict the zodiac constellation "Virgo" (virgin). She is seen with a branch in her hand, that branch representing her "seed". Thus she represents the "woman and her seed" who would oppose the Messiah as mentioned in Genesis 3:15. So you have a Jewish version paralleling a pagan version but one might suppose that the concept originated first with the pagans, when it did not, it had a common source.

The same thing with other pagan doctrines regarding the Messiah. The Bible shows that Jesus is represented in the heavenly bodies as the "sun" since he's the bright morning star. Pagan custom shows the sun-god as Mithras and represents his birthdate at the winter solstice at the birth of the sun. However, the things in the heavens were represented by earthly things long before this, so the fact that the Jews and Christians would acknowledge their Messiah as the sun comes from the original reference of that fact and the pagan version simply reflects that.

Even the idea of the sacrifice of children which the pagans did was a Satanic mockery of what God had done in order to save mankind. That is, basically, in order to kill Satan and fulfill the law that says sin must be paid by death, the only way to nullify this for Adams children was to create the RANSON SACRIFICE via the RESURRECTION. That is, a new rule came into existence that said if you died a good person then you could come back to life again. But basically that would mean that God would require ALL his children to die or be tested, as if passing them through the fire. This basic concept became the corrupted pagan practice of having children pass through the fire to Molech as God was having his own children (all his servants) pass through the fire in another sense.

So on academic analysis, what we learn is a common knowledge about the conflict between Satan and the Devil and the sacrifice of the Messiah, the king, who would then save all mankind.

Now here's the issue. Basicaly, the concept of the dying-king-god ever year that brings back spring, is the same concept as Mithras killing the bull who then brings life and prosperity, and could parallel the fact that God's sacrificing of his son, Jesus Christ results in the life of dying mankind.

Now did the Christians adapt a PAGAN doctrine? or did the pagans adapt and original common belief of circumstances from the time of Noah?

So whether or not a specific doctrine in one culture resembles that in another could have more than one explanation. But particularly presuming that any Judeo-Christian concepts come out of paganism becomes somewhat presumptuous must be recognized since the Judeo doctrines go all the way back to Adam and stem therefore from Noah. In other words, the Christians and Jews did not need to borrow from the pagans when they had their own version of the original doctrine.

And what is really fun, when you really get into the Bible is recognizing that ISHTAR, the woman with teh seed, is a direct representation of Satan and his seed that would oppose Christ and his seed. So ISHTAR and Artemis and the mysteries are not simply pagan but specifically SATANIC. Thus Satan inspired these false gods based upon himself and his own nature, i.e. being beautiful, sophisticated, etc.

So two sides to every coin, I suppose, but in the case of the Jews and Christians more than likely they had the original take on some of the pagan concepts, including Jesus being the sun and being sacrificed to save the world. That's the Grail Myth from the mysteries you know: "The king is the land, the land is the king" the land dies when the king dies and when he's reborn the land flourishes again, the same old "dying king" myth, but that reflects the original concept of Jesus' death allowing for the rebirth of mankind.

L.G.

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

To those other than AChristian re second wave offering with leaven.

AChristian claims not to answer my posts but only to post rebuttal for the sake of others, so I will do the same thing.

AChristian claims he explained why the second wave offering with leaven does not apply to Jesus' second coming in the imperfect flesh. However, there IS NO EXPLANATION other than the obvious.

Jesus must fulfill the "firstfruits". The firstfruits are two, the firstfruits of barley during passover week and the firstfruits at Pentecost. AChristian would have us ignore that Jesus does not fulfill the firstfruits at Pentecost which is WITH LEAVEN, in stark contrast to the first wave offering of firstfruits which is WITHOUT LEAVEN. Furthermore, we have the entire Passover week emphasizing Christ's physical body by the UNLEAVENED BREAD. This shows the bread is sinless.

Therefore, when you have a second, specific, firstfruits wave offering specifically of LOAVES WITH LEAVEN, something should click. You should understand the Bible is trying to tell us that the second coming body of Christ would be in the imperfect flesh as an ordinary man. The ONLY way for that to happen is if Jesus adopts the body of somone else, plain and simple.

Now that's the PREMISE. We now have to examine scriptures from this point to see if this premise is correct. But there is nothing anyone can do about it. If the first wave offering firstfruits represents Jesus' imperfect body then the second must represent him also and that means he must appear as an imperfect man at the second coming.

But what happens when we examine other scriptures? WE GET A CONFIRMATION!

1. Note that Jesus is in heven just kicking Satan out of heaven in the vision of Revelation when a woman, representing the earthly anointed bride class gives birth to a new Messiah who is caught up to heaven to God. What does this mean? What CAN it mean? Well note there are TWO MESSIAHS all of a sudden, one great angelic Messiah in heaven and a newly born one coming out of the woman. If the woman represents the Bride Class then this simply represents one of her "seed" or one of her members coming forth to be caught up to heaven. But for what? To BECOME THE MESSIAH! Thus the two Messiahs now become ONE. And that's how Jesus ends up in an imperfect body at the second coming. And that's WHY the second wave offering of firstfruits is shown, appropriately so, WITH LEAVEN. It's not that complex.

Anyway, the combination of showing that the second-coming Messiah at the time Satan is kicked out of heaven comes from an earthly source along with the second wave offering showing the nature of the Body of Christ being WITH LEAVEN, proves he appears in the imperfect flesh at the second coming and he does that by ADOPTION of the body of one of his followers coming out of the Bride Class.

That is what the BIBLE teaches. If you want to follow AChristian, who seems more and more of an idiot the more he posts, that's fine. It's about WHAT YOU decide what the Bible says based upon the cooresponding scriptures. These scriptures prove Jesus is in the imperfect flesh at the second coming, and that's the end of it.

Be right, or be WRONG, it's as simple as that.

L.G.

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

You know, AChristian, you're going to have problems with this anti-Messiah thing you've got going.

LG, I hope you didn't write all that for me. I hardly read any of it. I doubt anyone else did either, at least not anyone who knows you are totally insane. See a Doctor.

For instance, I thought I was just an anointed prophet when I jumped into the dumpsters which was a means of camaflauging some escape I was led to believe was necessary. I let myself be dumped into that dump truck thinking there was a secret trap door I was going to slip into and be taken to a secret place. I didn't know what was going on. And furthermore, I actually saw an apparation of Jesus Christ earlier so had no idea what was happening until it actually did. BUT...only AFTER that happened, that I became combined with the spirit of Jesus Christ, did I then go BACK to the scriptures to find out all this stuff, including the 1992 dating! None of that happened before.

Only AFTER I became the Messiah did I realize the parable of the prodigal son was about ME because that was my story.

Only AFTER I became the Messiah did I realize that the Rich Man and Lazarus parable reflected on the fact that the second coming Messiah would be homosexual and a J.W.

Only AFTER this happened did the second wave offering WITH LEAVEN make sense since the Messiah was now in the imperfect flesh. Who would have thought even if Jesus was to come back in the flesh that he'd come back in someone else's body, an impefect body? But the wave offerings show that perfectly!

And obviously the Messiah is by CHOICE shown at Zechariah 3 where you see the chosen Messiah standing there with befouled garments representing his past sins! This is the SAME person, the same prodigal son, the same former practicing homosexual who becomes the Messiah which the Bible shows he does.

Plus it is clear the Messiah comes out of the Bride Class first as a child and taken up to heaven to become combined with Jesus Christ.

So I was amazed as anybody to realize the Bible was actually teaching what happened and that the chronology was specific to WHEN it happened. I had no clue before. Which is more power to my course because while some might say I am not the promised Messiah, nobody can turn the scriptures around at this point and claim the Bible doesn't teach that Jesus would come back by taking up the body of the prodigal son/Lazarus. It's right there in scripture. It's not a hard doctrine to follow.

So bottom line is, someone else might end up being the Messiah besides me, but he still must be a black, ex-homosexual JW who gets anointed in 1992 to fulfill the Bible's prophecies and there is nothing you can do about that but be BIBLICALLY INCORRECT per that belief.

So if I need to see a doctor, so do you, since you're in Biblical denial.

You can be shocked, AChristian, all you want, but you can't change what the BIBLE says.

THE SECOND WAVE OFFERING IS WITH LEAVEN!!!!

Get it?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH?

Wake up!

Cheerio,
L.G., the happy Messiah

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

Hi Willy-Think:

I totally agree with you that it seems only the Church's authority determines the NT. It's debatable about how much purposeful internal canon efforts were made with the NT writings, however, because the apostles were in control of which letters were being sent to the congregations, etc. and at some point I do believe the Christian overseers established a body of letters they considered as the NT and then that became what our NT is.

However, really, the ONLY, ONLY, ONLY point I was making, since all of this is rather indefensible is just noting a TECHNICAL issue I noted when researching the canon and that is simply that per the current NT books they all quote from the OT books except for 3. That's all I'm saying.

Some peole make a big deal out of it and consider this as the NT writers way of excluding any other works as being inspired and others (like yourself) consider it a coincidence. That's fine. I was just noting that three books were excluded AND, incidentally, at least two of them, Esther and SOS can be aggressively challenged as being "inspired" on various bases which adds credance to dismissing them or not including them.

In other words, it would have been embarassing to find out that Esther and SOS were uninspired if the NT writers quoted from them and I'd be explaining it was just a loose reference and not meant to consider them as inspired or something. But SOS and Esther are definitely flawed and I would have dismissed them as inspired as other canon scholars have anyway. Both were very late additions to the canon, as I noted, and were not even in the canon when Josephus completed his work. Esther didn't get into the canon until the 3rd century and the "Feast of Esther" was always considered a pagan holiday during Jesus' day. So there's a little history going there.

Everything I decide upon is not designed just to twist things into my beliefs. Some of this stuff is quite fundamental and you can go research it yourself.

As far as me always being "sick" and needing a doctor, that's just a cop-out for not having a better explanation to refute my opinions. I stand by my opinions, insane or otherwise.

Thanks for your comment.

Cheerio,
L.G.

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

Pretending for one moment that your god exists, unless he uses his superpowers to physically subdue me, I would never bow to him. I would rather spend every day of my eternity in hell cursing his existence. But that's just because I have principles.

You know, FD, people like you are the very ones that are ripe to be converted. They say there are no atheists in the fox holes, and the same loosely applies here. That's because if God sent an angel to you in person you'd suddenly become a believer. That's what happened to Paul. So if God thinks you have any other redeeming qualities and thinks your worth it and wants to put you to work on his side, especially since you seem to be so HONEST, then he just might perform a little miracle for you to see how fast you'll convert!!!!

I hope he does!!!

In the meantime, since the second coming occurred in 1992 for the JIOR Group, we see some miracles of holy spirit so our confirmation of a God does go into the extra-Biblical area and I must say, it DOES make a difference. Living on FAITH 100% vs having seen a more direct manifestation of God and his works.

But this falls under the category of "those who have a lot, more will be given, those who have nothing even what they have will be taken from them." So the ones with the most faith, who believed in scripture and accepted it, are the ones that get the extra-supernatural manifestations of God now. Those who only have half faith or are doubting are stumbled by many things that takes even their weak faith away.

So, some of us are actually seeing miracles now as prophesied, just for the record and it DOES make a difference to have your faith in God confirmed. It's not so easy for us now post 1992 to deny God having seen some of his works firsthand.

Take care! I hope an angel visits you soon!!! -- (with good news, though, not bad. An angel will definitely be coming to visit the world but it will be bad news, of course, sort of like the Flood?)

See ya!

L.G.

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The Bible is a Deck of Cards

by IslandWoman in

there are a variety of playing cards and a variety of games to play with them.. the bible's canon was selected with as much care and selfish intent as the makers of playing cards have when choosing their particular design or theme.. the "hebrew" canon was decided by a nation comdemned by jesus.

they picked the design.. the "christian greek" canon was decided by men who had left the teachings of the christ.

they also picked the design.. the whole thing is a sad joke.

Larsguy

Hi AChristian,
The more and more you post the more and more I realize you don't know much...

Simply because the writers of the New Testament did not quote from some of the Old Testament's books does not prove they are not inspired and do not belong in the Bible cannon. Do you know of any New Testament writer who quoted from Revelation? Of course not. Does that prove it does not belong in the Bible cannon?[/Q]
Hello? Revelation is in the NT not the OT in case you didn't notice. The reference was for NT Bible writers quoting from books in the Old Testament and leaving three books out that are in the common current cannon, Esther, Ecclesiastes and SOS. That's ALL I said. The cross-quoting thus implies it's only cannon if you presume this was intention to include books they wanted in the canon and to exclude books they didn't want in the canon, even if there was otherwise nothing wrong with them, historically correct or otherwise.
Your statement that "Esther is in historical conflict with EZRA/NEHEMIAH" is only your own nutty opinion. You say this because to believe otherwise would invalidate your wacky understandings of Bible chronology which you say prove that you became Jesus Christ in 1992. You try to invalidate the chronological information contained in Esther which conflicts with your nutty interpretations of Bible history by pointing out that Esther is not quoted in the New Testament. Of course this means you must also throw out Ecclesiastes and The Song of Solomon,which you then do.
You obviously don't know what your talking about. The fact is, besides confirming that Artaxerxes I and Xerxes were the same king, that the ORIGINAL version of Esther which is found in the Septuagint has her married to "Artaxerxes, the son of Xerxes". This is something you can't get out of but might want to look up in Josephus so you can claim he doesn't know what he's talking about either. But it doesn't matter, the conflict is there. The other Bible books do not mention Queen Esther and Nehemiah was the "prime minister" and chief cupbearer during the reing of Artaxerxes. The current version of Esther in most Bible's change the king Esther was married to to "Ahasuerus" who they variously decide is either "Xerxes" or some other king (the WTS say Xerxes). But that's just the revised version. The original version showed her married to Artaxerxes which does conflict with Ezra and Nehemiah.
So no matter what, if the revisions during the Seleucid Period which added 82 years of fake history to the Persian Period is considered confirmed, then the rule of Xerxes and Artaxerxes become combined and that leaves no place for the book of Esther historically per the Bible.
Now since you're so critical, AChristian, funny to me I already pointed out to you that Ezra 6:14,15 limits the rule of Darius I to 6 years and shows Artaxerxes coming to the throne as the "4th king" after Cyrus which means Xerxes and Artaxerxes were the same king according to the Bible (Cyrus, Ahasuerus/Kambyses, Artaxerxes/Bardiya, Darius I, Xerxes/Artaxerxes). Instead, it was you who claimed that this simple reference as to which Persian king last completed the temple was some reference to some later work some 57 years later on the temple instead of just accepting that the chronology of the Bible and that of the revising pagans does not match. Plus, I've already shown where you can match up the battle of Marathon to the 6th year of Darius I by Greek history.
Anyway, you're the one on a fantasy trip and needs to see a doctor, not me. You are welcome to believe whatever you wish, but the fact that Esther is not historically correct is an easy one.
If you're even curious as to confirming this, which I think you don't want to since you like living in a fantasy world, is simply CHECK JOSEPHUS. He revises his history per the original version of Esther which shows her married to Artaxerxes, but he blatantly dates the story of Ezra and Nehmiah BEFORE that of Esther during the reign of XERXES!!! You can see an electronic version of Josephus on the web at various places. This is more proof that Josephus clearl knew that Esther was a loose reference to Nehemiah (whose Babylonian name was Mordecai) and that Xerxes and Artaxerxes were the same king.
So, really AChristian, unless you're criticall and academically prepared to dismiss on a secular basis this history, I wouldn't bother trying to refute what I say. I have ACADEMIC proof of the conspiracy and the original dating. So you're just MISINFORMED and deceived. But then again, since the Bible so clearly states that Darius only ruled for 6 years, which is confirmed by the reliefs of Persepolis which shows he couldn't even finish that city after just 2 years, meaning he died suddenly, then you'll never have the truth.
Anyway, just read the original SEPTUAGINT (since you're so into 70) version of Esther and you'll see that that version contradicts Ezra/Nehemiah since it says she is married to ARTAXERXES not "Ahasuerus/Xerxes"--it was later revised. There's nothing you can do about it but go into denial or take a few Prozac.
Sorry.
L.G.
And by the way, I don't know why you're so hung up on an anti-1992 dating for the Second Coming. The Jews returned to Palestine in 1947 and that forces 1992 to 45 years later per the 1335 days prophecy. So I don't need Esther or any ancient historical revisionist rhetoric to date the second coming to 1992. Furthermore, as I also told you, the 70th consecutive week from 36CE dates mid-week Passover to 1993 which is another implied dating for the second coming. So I don't even have to deal with the "7 times" prophecy or all the confusion from the ancient history to date the second coming in 1992; I can use either 36CE or 1947 A.D. All my research proves is that the original chronology dated the fall of Jerusalem in 529BCE which simply COORDINATES the 1992-1993 dating already established.
[QUOTE]You are not Jesus Christ. You are mentally ill. See a Doctor.

I am Jesus Christ (I can't lie about it, I have to admit it when confronted). I may very well be mentally ill. And the doctors gave up on me long time ago. Haa haa! But you're in DENIAL and you need to see a doctor or at least schedule an appointment for when you are finally forced to accept REALITY.