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  Proof that the lingiusts are lying about words used in the bible IE: Shaddai, Angels, Elohim, Yhwh?

  by Crazyguy in

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  in 1967 an archeologist found at tell el-deir alla an inscription that they called the book of balaam son of beor.

  this looks to be about the same balaam that's talked about in the bible book of numbers.

  remember the guy where his donkey is talking to him.

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  MaxTan

  Well thanks for bringing that inscription to our attention, I for one hear about it the first time now.
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  First thoughts on "new" meeting...

  by konceptual99 in

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  had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

  sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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  The guy who introduces this vid, he looks more like one of the people who are really in charge of this corporation. Not the usual soppy GB member, this guy looks like a hit man.

  Yeah, I thought he looked a little like Lorne Malvo (Billy Bob Thornton) from Fargo.
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  Resurrection - cell phone edition

  by Simon in

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  2. family

  i have an oldish phone - a samsung galaxy s3.

  i don't feel the need for anything faster or better because i don't use it a ton.

  i hardly ever call anyone or have anyone call me and it's mostly used for emergency remote access to the forum, to play the odd game and to text the kids to let them know i'm picking them up or they want to be picked up from somewhere (maybe i should sign up as an uber driver?

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  I've been a custom ROM addict since i first got an Android phone few yrs ago... I too flashed Cyanogenmod 12.1 on my Note 2. Its the best Lollipop Rom i have tried for my phone, stable, fast, good battery life, good features. Looks like a keeper so far. Before this my fav was Slimkat, based on stock Kitkat, which now looks so dated in comparison to Lollipop...
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  JWs and their views on Sex

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the past i have read on this forum that the wt have a say in the "bedroom" of couples.

  i thought that was a bit overkill at first, but recently i have come to conclusion that this is true.. the control administered by the wt cooperation on ones sex life is not on only intrusive, its damaging.

  they control every aspect of ones thought and action, thus leading most down a path that said corporation wants them to tread.. this path is to get married young, and then eternal loyalty the the organisation.. so how can an organisation force you to get married young?.

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  I feel that the Watchtower is still telling people what not to do in the bedroom. Although they dont want to say it directly in print, to not appear as unreasonable, they clearly still condemn oral sex, and this has not gone unnoticed by the faithful - among them my wife, unfortuntely... but that's not the only issue she has...

  As late as w07 10/15 p.27 they said:

  8. As to oral sex, how do Christians differ from many people of the world?

  8 Hebrews 13:4 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 establish that God disapproves of both adultery and fornication (Greek, por·neiʹa). What does the latter include? The Greek term involves the use of the genital organs in either a natural or a perverted way with lewd intent. It includes all forms of illicit sexual relations outside of Scriptural marriage. So it includes oral sex, despite the fact that many teenagers around the world have been told or have come to the conclusion that oral sex is acceptable. True Christians do not guide their thinking and actions by the opinions of “profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind.” (Titus 1:10) They hold to the higher standard of the Holy Scriptures. Rather than try to make excuses for oral sex, they understand that Scripturally it is fornication, por·neiʹa, and they train their conscience accordingly.*—Acts 21:25; 1 Corinthians 6:18; Ephesians 5:3.

  Although meant to condemn any sexual relations between unmarried people, the faithful married jws will only read: "God disapproves... Fornication... oral sex". And the footnote links to w83, posted earlier by Brock Talon, where oral sex is presented as being perverted.

  So if this is not Watchtower condemning certain types of sex and forcing their way into couple's bedrooms, i dont know what is.
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  POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?

  by minimus in

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  i was just invited.

  i thanked my old elder friend and he left.

  (i'm not going).

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  Still in, I'm afraid - so yes
  
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  WTBTS Buys Property Near Patterson for Audio Video Production

  by MaxTan in

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  2. friends

  cbre groups westchester/fairfield county office announced today the successful sale of 39 mount ebo road south, a 93,000-square-foot industrial property in southeast.. the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. bought the property for $6.1 million.. the buyer plans to use the property for its own uses, including media production, cbre group said in a press release.. this industrial property sits on 11.42 acres of land and features warehouse space and adjoining officesits a truly rare block of modern high bay warehouse space for this market and continues the trend of owner occupiers buying blocks of space, said kevin langtry, a vice president in cbres stamford, ct office.. the tenant, watson pharmaceuticals, planned to vacate the property, so its owner retained cbre, inc. in advance to line up a buyer.. langtry represented the seller, indcor properties, a chicago-based reit that owns and operates a portfolio of wholly owned industrial properties in locations throughout the united states.. this, combined with its proximity to watchtowers route 22 campus, made it a great fit.

  it was a win-win for both indcor and the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, said langtry.. link to original article.

  link to jwtalk thread <-- where the claim is made it's solely for a/v production use.

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  CBRE Group’s Westchester/Fairfield County office announced today the successful sale of 39 Mount Ebo Road South, a 93,000-square-foot industrial property in Southeast.

  The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. bought the property for $6.1 million.

  The buyer plans to use the property for its own uses, including media production, CBRE Group said in a press release.

  “This industrial property sits on 11.42 acres of land and features warehouse space and adjoining offices—it’s a truly rare block of modern high bay warehouse space for this market and continues the trend of owner occupiers buying blocks of space,” said Kevin Langtry, a vice president in CBRE’s Stamford, CT office.

  The tenant, Watson Pharmaceuticals, planned to vacate the property, so its owner retained CBRE, Inc. in advance to line up a buyer.

  Langtry represented the seller, IndCor Properties, a Chicago-based REIT that owns and operates a portfolio of wholly owned industrial properties in locations throughout the United States.

  “This, combined with its proximity to Watchtower’s Route 22 campus, made it a great fit. It was a win-win for both IndCor and The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York,” said Langtry.

  Link to original article

  Link to JWTalk thread <-- where the claim is made it's solely for A/V production use
  
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses to hand over top secret manual to Finland officials

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://yle.fi/uutiset/jehovahs_witnesses_to_hand_over_top_secret_manual/7244267.

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  jehovah's witnesses to hand over top secret manual.

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  WTH?!?! The WTBTS won't interfere in my life if I go against WTBTS policy?!!?

  More info, please!!!!

  DD

  Oh sure they wont! The proof, straight from the horse's mouth:
  Finnish JW press representative about the shunning policy (Youtube)
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  Jehovah's Witnesses to hand over top secret manual to Finland officials

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
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  http://yle.fi/uutiset/jehovahs_witnesses_to_hand_over_top_secret_manual/7244267.

  16.5.2014 7:00 | updated 16.5.2014 17:10

  jehovah's witnesses to hand over top secret manual.

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  sir82 - Which "rule book" is that?

  Just the basic "Flock" book that all elders get?

  Or something higher, maybe branch office guidelines?

  Also, that article is nearly a year old. Any updates since then?

  Yes the Flock book.

  The Bethel heavies met with the ministers, and as it looks like from the news article, lied their asses off and managed to convince them everything is a-OK.

  The ministers came to the conclusion that JW JC's are NOT a judicial system competing with the Finnish rule of law. And that if somebody feels like their rights have been broken they should go to the police and the matter will be investigated properly, as the ministers are not law enforcement officials and can not start investigating every case themselves.
  

  A Finnish apostate has collected news about this and other matters (in Finnish language, try google translate) on his website.

  
  
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  Judicial Committees illegal in Finland, can this apply to USA law??

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  http://yle.fi/uutiset/justice_minister_no_room_for_two_judicial_systems_in_finland/7219841.

  according to this story, finland is investigating and claims that only one judicial body is legal, theirs.

  so a religion having a judicial system is illegal.

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  MaxTan

  Unfortunately, the Judicial Committees are NOT deemed illegal in Finland.
  

  The story you linked to is pretty old. It was published before the "investigation" into JW Judicial Committees...

  I am going to copy paste what I wrote about this in another thread:
  

  The "investigation" was like this: The Finnish Minister of Interior and Minister of Justice met with three top dogs from the Finnish Bethel, and apparently, they managed to convince them everything is fine.

  The Ministers issued a press release saying, in essence, that Jehovah's Witnesses Judicial Committees are not a judicial system competing with the Finnish judicial system, and the JC's can be likened to disciplinary measures taken by any non-profit against its own members. And if somebody feels like a crime has been committed against them, they should go to the appropriate authorities.

  So as long as nobody files a criminal complaint against the WT and the case is not taken to court, and ruled against the WT, JCs are assumed legal in Finland and it's business as usual for the WT.
  
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  Flashy convention site

  by Powermetal4ever in

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  2. friends

  dont know if anyone already have shown this, but there's a big convention this summer in stockholm with people from all northern european countries ( i believe it was).

  and this is the site: https://www.sammankomst.org/#/ .

  never seen such a site, it even got a countdown on it.

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  No, its not an assembly hall, it's a football arena...