Posts by Reality79

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Divorce

by Eustace in

jw
friends

i really hate divorce.

it was my parents getting divorced that helped messed up my childhood.. part of why i came to conclude the jehovah's witnesses don't have the "spiritual paradise" they claim to is how many of their marriages end up in divorce.my parents i could dismiss as an exception to a general rule, but i could never understand how often it seemed to keep happening to lots of different people when the watchtower society teaches that divorce is wrong except in case of adultery.. but what really brought things home for me was this study by the pewforum on religion survey showing that even though jehovah's witness are less likely to be married than the general population, they're more likely to be divorced or separated.. http://religions.pewforum.org/.

they really have a nerve telling people in the jehovah's witnesses religion that they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage when they've done so little to protect jws who get married, and their children, from the extreme stress and conflict of divorce.. it's really messed up.. heck, even the catholics they're are always dumping on have a lower divorce/separation rate than the jws.. jw divorced/separated = 14%.

Reality79

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Divorce

by Eustace in

jw
friends

i really hate divorce.

it was my parents getting divorced that helped messed up my childhood.. part of why i came to conclude the jehovah's witnesses don't have the "spiritual paradise" they claim to is how many of their marriages end up in divorce.my parents i could dismiss as an exception to a general rule, but i could never understand how often it seemed to keep happening to lots of different people when the watchtower society teaches that divorce is wrong except in case of adultery.. but what really brought things home for me was this study by the pewforum on religion survey showing that even though jehovah's witness are less likely to be married than the general population, they're more likely to be divorced or separated.. http://religions.pewforum.org/.

they really have a nerve telling people in the jehovah's witnesses religion that they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage when they've done so little to protect jws who get married, and their children, from the extreme stress and conflict of divorce.. it's really messed up.. heck, even the catholics they're are always dumping on have a lower divorce/separation rate than the jws.. jw divorced/separated = 14%.

Reality79

They're a crazy and f*cked up organisation and that's the bottom line. I won't mince my words because they ruin people's lives and get away with it.

My wife and I have been separated for a year and a half. The decision to separate was a mutual agreement and we agreed it was only temporary, but her JW parents got in her ear once she went back home to where she's originally from and she then decided we had no chance of reconciliation and that the marriage was over for good. Now looking back, it's obvious she had planned this from way before. But the point is, I spoke to a JW aunt at the time (whom I now totally DESPISE) trying to get comfort (which is a mistake for anyone to do - trying to get sympathy from a witness is a bad move) and all this witch could tell me is that if we had followed bible principles, we'd still be together and that I shouldn't initiate divorce proceedings as long as she hasn't committed adultery. She's telling me that if no adultery has been committed then I should just remain celibate for the rest of my life and come back to the organisation where I will supposedly have "mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters etc" whatever that stupid scripture says.....you know, the very same people that caused me to leave in the first place. She's telling me that there are "brothers" in the org that have chosen to remain single and they are being "blessed".

So that's supposed to be of comfort to someone whose marriage has been destroyed?! I'm 33, I was 32 at the time when I spoke to her and you're telling me as a healthy, fairly young male who has needs like anyone else, I'm just supposed to throw away any possibility of settling down and starting a family just to go back to knocking on doors and handling a microphone amongst of group of people who wouldn't even give a shit about me any old damn way?

It's times like this when you see the difference between the dubs and most other religions....and not in a good way. I have another aunt who actually calls me to find out how I am and invites me over to dinner (unlike that dub aunt). Now this aunt is a REAL christian....she attends a Baptist church. Now I consider myself a spiritual person and don't subscribe to any religions including christianity, however what she told me is this: If you and your marriage partner have separated and one is adamant that the marriage is over and doesn't wish to reconcile but you did everything in your power to make things work, then God knows you made and effort but also recognises that you are a human with needs, therefore it isn't wrong to initiate a divorce and remarry.

You see the difference? Dubs have this black and white, one size fits all hardline approach to things and if you don't like it, tough shit. Irrespective of the lives ruined, Jehovah (more like the GB) says this and you just have to fall in line. Don't they see that there are so many unscriptural divorces taking place for a reason??? I mean, for goodness sake, you can't even court the person for more than a year or really get to know them on a private level without people looking at you funny, then when things don't work out, everybody's surprised.

I just know that I'll hopefully start divorce proceedings sometime this year so that I can truly move on with my life and eventually meet someone else. The dubs and their beloved GB can shove their doctrine.

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Serena Williams wins....but as a Jehovah's Witness will not toast.....New York Daily News Story

by Balaamsass in

u.s. open sponsor moet leads champagne toast to champion serena williams, a jehovah's witness who does not drinkreporters on tight deadline wait for inappropriate-feeling homage before williams can begin press conference.comments (7).

by filip bondy / new york daily newsmonday, september 10, 2012, 12:00 am.

howard simmons/new york daily newsserena williams is thrilled about winning the u.s. open, but she will not celebrate with a champagne toast due to her religious beliefs.. there was an awkward interval sunday night in the press interview room, when the u.s. open sponsors, moet, delivered a trolley of small champagne bottles to the assembled media who already had waited an hour to ask post-match questions of serena williams.. before williams could begin answering questions, usta ceo gordon smith led a toast that basically called williams victory the greatest match in open history.. .