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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

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  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  I believe tolerance goes both ways. So, yes. It is their right to choose for themselves what they want and it is not my place to violate that. I am the medical representative listed on my mother's blood card, and should it come to that, I plan on following her conscience.

  It's her life, not mine. If I want her to respect my right to be "inactive", then I think it is the right thing to do to respect her right to be a true believer. In my view, part of being an adult is respecting other people's right to their own points of view, opinions, etc and supporting what is important to them, even if it is something that is not important to me.

  We don't have to be the same to be respectful and loving. Otherwise, how are we any different than the hypocrasy many of us have experienced at the KH?
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  1) Raise (1971)

  2) 1988

  3) 2007 (only attend Memorial and funerals)

  Time in: 1971 - 2007 (36) total years associated

  1988 -2007 (21) years baptized
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  Feeling rejected

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.

  however, i'm in the process of becoming one.

  in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.

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  The issue is they are jealous of you on multiple levels:

  1) you are smart

  2) you are attractive

  3) you are sensual

  4) you are independent

  5) you are educated

  How could they possibly compete?

  All of this however gets you the label of being "dangerous" - it won't matter if you move congregations unless you move to an affluent congregation with many educated/professionals - you will be treated like this no matter where you go.

  They consider you a threat and they always will...

  Leave now while you still can.
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  I found the WTBTS 990-T's Income Tax Returns for 2010-2013, and it shows their book value of all their assets

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there are two sources online to get these pdfs.

  https://www.citizenaudit.org/111857820/ lists 2010-2013 ( i would prefer this link because it's the most up to date).

  http://www.guidestar.org/viewpdf.aspx?pdfsource=0&ein=11-1857820 lists 2010-2012. book value of all assets at end of year: (can be found on the 990-t for on top left on 1st page).

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  why do all their tax returns only report their "investment activities" and not the donations received?
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  I found the WTBTS 990-T's Income Tax Returns for 2010-2013, and it shows their book value of all their assets

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there are two sources online to get these pdfs.

  https://www.citizenaudit.org/111857820/ lists 2010-2013 ( i would prefer this link because it's the most up to date).

  http://www.guidestar.org/viewpdf.aspx?pdfsource=0&ein=11-1857820 lists 2010-2012. book value of all assets at end of year: (can be found on the 990-t for on top left on 1st page).

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  Interesting they show a huge loss in 2013. I'd be interested to see what 2014 looks like....and I'd like to see if any of the "loss" is related to any other entity they control.
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  bafh Thankyou, good point and I appreciate your comment. I am wondering how I may bring this in to the "suggestions" as the RC here is looking for a reason to de- exempt. All points are most welcome. I will take them all on board.
  Thank you.

  What about making their tax exempt status dependent on complying with the requirements:

  1) that all volunteers with any sort of responsibility - pioneer, ministerial servant, elder, etc be required to have a background check.

  2) requiring elders to report to the authorities all known abuse regardless of how they came to be aware of it - confession or reports from parents/victims and without regard to how long it had been since the alleged incident(s) happened.

  3) all who are known offenders - through their own confession or through conviction by a court - be made known in every congregation - like a known offender list - made available through the elders, or the branch - maybe even onJW.org in some discreet way.

  I'm not sure what country you are in, but if they don't comply with legal requirements for reporting child abuse, their tax exempt status should be taken away or their organization dissolved.
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  It might seem too unreasonable for the first suggestion to go after the tax exemption. There is too much that can be done to finangle books and activities so they qualify - and it doesn't get to the root of the issue....

  It would be more effective to recommend:

  1) that all volunteers with any sort of responsibility - pioneer, ministerial servant, elder, etc be required to have a background check.

  2) requiring elders to report to the authorities all known abuse regardless of how they came to be aware of it - confession or reports from parents/victims and without regard to how long it had been since the alleged incident(s) happened.

  3) all who are known offenders - through their own confession or through conviction by a court - be made known in every congregation - like a known offender list - made available through the elders, or the branch - maybe even on JW.org in some discreet way.

  my 2 cents

  bafh
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  Minimum wages..raising the minimum question

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  across the u.s the minimum wages are $5.15 in wyoming to $9.50 in dc,.

  average $8.00.

  eve montes in california pick grapes for $9.50 an hour and she.

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  minimum wage should be enough to support a person, not a family. If a person doesn't have the skills to earn more than minimum wage, then they need to get the skills or work for themselves and stop having kids they can't support. How hard is that, really?
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  How Comfortable Are The Governing Body At Headquarter After This Massive Lay Off?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this lay off and all the child molestation lawsuits coming to a head with more lay off in the wings.

  i'm sure there is a lot of concern going on among those still there.

  i'm sure a lot are finding out for the first time that the governing body are all frauds by doing secure internet searches to find out just how much they been had by these villans , i think the situation could be dangerous (the possibility exist).

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  My regular pioneer mom told me there were a lot of changes in staffing because they were "focusing on the preaching work." Couldn't be that there are lawsuits all over the place, and they are spending more money than they have....she's a true believer so it doesn't surprise me that she said this. At the same time, it is fascinating to me to see how people on the inside explain to themselves what is going on in such a different way than people who are on the outside.
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  Was that the annual meeting or did I view thte QVC channel instead?

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just started watching the 2015 annual meeting on jw broadcasting and if the first hour of the program is any indicator, i may not be able to finish it.

  the rollout of the new midweek meeting by the two gb helpers was just too much.

  replete with headphone mics and witty repartee, these guys were very apple-esque, or at least that was what they intended, i think.

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  David Schaffer, the guy on the left, was SO nervous.