Posts by bafh

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Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

by kneehighmiah in

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the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

i was talking to a jw last night.

bafh

From a woman's perspective the choices are not that wonderful either. I am a smart, ambitious, educated woman. I own a successful business. One reason even if I was still attending I would never marry a JW man is for the most part they are dull, awkward and intimidated by capable women. If I went back now, there is no social room for a single successful business woman who is not pining for a man and who has no desire to regular pioneer. I can only imagine the level of quiet criticism I'd get for just showing up. I would attract the incompetent men who need someone to take care of them. THAT is not what I'm looking for.Lets not even get started on how the "headship" thing works with JW men. Just shoot me now.

It is no picnic for unconventional women.😄

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Can anyone confirm this?

by bafh in

my mom today said the brother behind the children's annimation used to work at pixar.

is that true?

if so, can anyone confirm it?.

bafh

My mom today said the brother behind the children's annimation used to work at Pixar. Is that true? If so, can anyone confirm it?

My mom is a regular-pioneer-true-believer-needs-religion-so-drank-the-koolaid kid of person. And she was going on and on about how thrilling it was there were so many changes that she "just can't keep up" and how the society with their website has always been "so ahead of everything" - I almost laughed out loud. Instead, kept my composure, listened and when it seemed natural to do so, changed the subject.

I have got got to say the new branding maneuvcer is working, at least on some people. SIGH.

BAFH

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Anyone else realize they are still "waiting"??

by bafh in

i have been gone for about 5 years now.

and am making good progress towards building a network of friends, and outside activities.

it takes time though, and it has been harder than i expected.

bafh

Yes, I was born-in. Your suggestion is great. I realize that I do plan for my business, but not for myself. And you are right, when I think ahead about my personal life, it is pretty fuzzy. You gave me something good to consider. Interesting.

Do you think this is a common experience for a born-in?

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Anyone else realize they are still "waiting"??

by bafh in

i have been gone for about 5 years now.

and am making good progress towards building a network of friends, and outside activities.

it takes time though, and it has been harder than i expected.

bafh

I have been gone for about 5 years now. And am making good progress towards building a network of friends, and outside activities. It takes time though, and it has been harder than I expected. Part of that is realizing how superficial the relationships with JWs are, and how most of the social skills that work inside that closed group do not work outside of it. In analyzing myself, I realized that on some level, I am still "waiting" - by that I mean - as a JW we are taught to be in anticipation of Armegeddon, and the New World - and to wait or put off anything else you might want to pursue until later. It put me in a purpetual state of waiting. I was very depressed and suicidal most of the time I was attending so I was keeping myself busy waiting for everything to be over.

Well, now that I am out, and got on meds for my ADD, I am not depressed or suicidal, but I did realize that I still had that sense of waiting. So very strange. Part of me realizing that I think is that I've finally come to the conclusion that I will likely never go back, and am not sure Armegeddon is coming, so there is nothing for me to wait for and I don't have to hold myself back in case I decide to return to being a JW. It is not a likely outcome.

Anyway...I just thought I would check and see if anyone else had this same experience. I think it is sort of fascinating how deeply a belief system alters a person's reality.

bafh

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At This Point In Time Would You Ever Subject Yourself To A Judicial Committee?

by minimus in

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friends

i certainly wouldn't.

and if the elders wanted to have a meeting with me, i would respectfully decline.

if the elders wanted to deal with you, would you talk with them?.

bafh

I have considered if I ever went back [as in "took leave of my senses"], would I respond to their attempts to "shepherd" me back into the flock? The answer is NO. I don't feel the manner in which they carry out their confession of sin and judicial discipline are in line with the scriptures and what was intended. Since they are not the "voice of God" they perport to be, there is no reason for me to give them more consideration in how I carry out my life than any other person I come into contact with.

Were they to approach me, I would say, "Thank you for your concern. I'll let you know if I need anything." With a big smile, and walk away. No matter what they said to me after that, I would just smile and repeat. Eventually, they would give up and leave me alone.

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If THAT is Paradise, count me bored....

by bafh in

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friends

i happened to attend a session of the summer convention on sunday morning.

one thing that that struck me was how their view of paradise was that we would all be the same.

they kept talking about how nice it would be if we all spoke the same language.

bafh

I guess what I keep going back to is that 1) there is no scriptural basis for their vision of this; 2) looking to the world around us, variety is the norm not the exception. It just seems to fly in the face of logic and it is so small minded. If they said, "Well, not knowing other languages is a barrier, so wouldn't it be cool if we would each just understand the other automatically?" I could get on board with that - I mean, if you believe in God, and he can do anything, then this would be no big deal. right?

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Could the "Test of Faith" be that the Watchtower is going Bust?

by tezrichmond in

i was thinking about this anouncment at the zone visit today.

this so called test of faith may be that the wt is going bust.

let's face it, for a while now we have seen the wt trying to scrimp and save as much as possible such as .

bafh

No. But I could see them spin "reorganization".

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If THAT is Paradise, count me bored....

by bafh in

jw
friends

i happened to attend a session of the summer convention on sunday morning.

one thing that that struck me was how their view of paradise was that we would all be the same.

they kept talking about how nice it would be if we all spoke the same language.

bafh

i guess what I don't get is why or where they get the idea that everyone has to be the same. It's not even scriptural thinking.

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If THAT is Paradise, count me bored....

by bafh in

jw
friends

i happened to attend a session of the summer convention on sunday morning.

one thing that that struck me was how their view of paradise was that we would all be the same.

they kept talking about how nice it would be if we all spoke the same language.

bafh

I happened to attend a session of the summer convention on Sunday morning.

One thing that that struck me was how their view of Paradise was that we would all be the same. They kept talking about how nice it would be if we all spoke the same language. I just thought how boring it would be. You destroy language, you destroy culture. And isn't THAT one thing that is so interesting about people? We do so many of the same things differently. If God allowed humans to create cultures and languages, why couldnt paradise involve us understanding each other's language while still peaking our own? Their ideas of how things should be are just so narrow.

If there is a God - he clearly values variety and individualism. Look at Zebras and Giraffes. To the naked eye, they all look the same. Yet, each zebra and giraffe have their own unique patterns. No two are alike.

I know this not an earth shattering revelation on my part, but the more distance I get from JWs, the more unscriptural I think they are.

color me happily faded

BAFH

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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bafh

They already unofficially shun inactive ones, so what purpose would making it official serve?