before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
and you know what happens when they do it.... we have another xjw to help others....
Only in the case of those who weren't determined to remain true Christians to begin with. What they seek to do is gather company to their side, because misery hates to be alone.
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Johnny,
lefty ; now your contradicting your self on the fds first you say the wt was not choosen in 1919 now you say they are the fds... what you are doing is circular reasoning.. you have no idea what mat 24 or 25 is about.
No it's not circular reasoning, and I haven't contradicted myself. It's called acknowledging an error of thought. Ever heard of that? And you might just be surprised what I know about Matthew 24 and 25.
jesus has not returned
I fully agree. And, to your surprise, the day will come when the WTS agrees too.
try reading prov 4:19 you really need to do a lot of reseach
I see you referred to in that scripture, and I've probably done twice the research that you have.
if jehovah was using the wt they would not need new light every other yea
Try reading Daniel 11:35, you really need to do a lot of research.
if you want i will get out a few new wt's and show you how thay lie about their past...
I know all about those supposed "lies," I've seen it all before. So, you needn't strain yourself in my behalf. I'm not the spring chick that you take me to be.
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
SO, stop feeding the troll. He has hijacked a good thread and made it a big pile of crap.
I fully agree, Jesika, but which troll are you referring to ... Johnny or Happy?
Yeah, it's easy for you to pop in here and render your judgement, isn't it. What's not so easy is for you though is to have something to say in defense of your position. You took the cowardly way out, as usual.
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Johnny,
lefty; you just said it your self the wt was never choosen in 1919.. and 1914 was wrong... so all of the 24 million mag's the wt prints a week that say all this crap are a lie .. and this is not worship that is aceptable to god.. misleading people is not acceptable to jehovah or jesus.
You need a lesson in the difference between a mistake and an outright lie.
Quit calling a mistake a "lie". There is a big difference, you know. Are you going to call those doctors who thought that fiber was bad for those afflicted with the piles liars? No, of course you wouldn't ever do that. You would say that they were "mistaken".
Yadirf
I'm going to bed.
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Happy,
Don't even attempt to use that argument. Doctors did not say that their treatments were the word of god. Nor did they ruin the lives of the people who refused their treatments, or did they completely dictate how their patients should live. And doctors don't make up foolish stories about new light when they find new methods of treatment. They admit they were wrong, and admit they will again be wrong in 20 years. The fact of the matter is, the WT claims to be "Jehovah's sole channel of commnication" to his people, and yet the WT has been wrong time and time again.
So, you chose to throw that bullsh!t out here again, as if it is something that everybody here hasn't heard a thousand times before. If it weren't for the fact that you are rather new here I'd chastise you for being so outright ignorant of what has already been said here in reply to all that you bring up.
The WTS has said time and time again that it is not infallible, and that it expects to undergo changes as the Bible becomes more and more understandable/clear. The fact that the WTS has corrected many of its past beliefs show that infallibility is not claimed. Yes, the WTS's GB does claim to be the "faithful slave" of Matthew 24, and as such is indeed God's mouthpiece (something that you obviously can't understand). And the GB has faithfully tried to do that job. So, what have you really got to bitch about?
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Of COURSE Jesus didn't "choose the wt as the fds in 1919". That date, along with its reasoning, is due to go out the window right along with the 1914 doctrine as can be discerned by Daniel 11:35. (Until you properly understand this scripture in Daniel you will go on thinking the way that you do, no doubt.)
But that still doesn't mean that the WTS doesn't harbor the FDS within her midst. The reason I say such a thing is because the Governing Body has indeed stepped up to the plate and said to God that they desire more than anything else in life to be that faithful slave that Matthew 24 speaks of. Their dedication towards that end is evident by their persistence in the work they chose even in the face of intense persecution. They are surely being recognized by Jesus as being that "slave" simply because they sincerely asked for the job and because they sincerely do their best trying to fulfill the responsibilities that come with that job. Based on that, who else would be better qualified so that Jesus should select them instead? When Jesus does arrive, it will be them that receives the appointment over "all his belongings".
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
So what? Haven't you noticed that times have changed all throughout the world? For example, it hasn't been all that long ago (perhaps only 30 years ago in fact) that physicians would regularly treat patients afflicted with hemorroids by telling them that they needed to not eat fibrous foods. Today, however, they know that they were telling their patients the very opposite of what they needed for treating this ailment. Now they tell them that they need all the fiber they can get in their diets.
Shall we also flush the medical profession down the toilet for having been wrong at times?
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Happy,
I still think you are closed minded because of the way you reply to everything that insults the WT, even if it is perfectly sensible.
You apparently can't see how well what you say here applies all the better to the apostates here on this forum. Even when what they are presented with is perfectly sensible, they reply with insults to everything said that is said in favor of the WTS, thus proving that they are closed minded. Stick around and you'll see that to be true, if you're honest about it all.
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Oh tut tut, Jonny Cip, what is it exactly that you're trying to say ... spit it out there man! Don't be shy. Also, try to get a hold of yourself ... somewhere else other than underneath your belt. I mean, get control of your emotions, otherwise I'll beat your ass all the more easily.
Yadirf
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Happy,
The witnesses are the ultimate parrots of the WT.
Many of my posts here on this forum are a testimony that you have no earthly idea of what you're talking about. Chreck 'em out if you don't believe me.
Yadirf
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