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I have a friend, now exJW, doing research on the cross. I remember reading some excellent stuff on this site a few years back on this. I can't seem to locate the older posts about the cross research. I do remember it was excellent stuff.

Can anyone help me out.

Thanks everyone,

Dave

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To Libra Spirit

by Dino in

libra_spirit, i just wanted to give you a great big apostate thank you for the shipment.

you're the absolute greatest and i really appreciate all your trouble in getting that out to me.

you should be getting something in the mail quickly!

libra_spirit

Yes I recieved it, thanks.

You are most welcome Dino, and if you ever come up this way I would be more then happy to show you around Sitka. Maybe even a little boating if the weather is good.

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OK you expert researchers I need some help!

by libra_spirit in

i am sitting here with some complete sets of watchtower and awake bound volumes 1952 thru 1993. one complete set has old origional red edges, and some are new reprints.

i am looking in the 60's particularly in the 1968 watchtower article about "why are you looking forward to 1975".

i was expecting to see some changes between the old ones and the reprints.

libra_spirit

I am sitting here with some complete sets of Watchtower and Awake bound volumes 1952 thru 1993. One complete set has old origional red edges, and some are new reprints. I am looking in the 60's particularly in the 1968 watchtower article about "Why are you looking forward to 1975". I was expecting to see some changes between the old ones and the reprints. I can't find any.

Help me out guys. Where are the changes in the new reprints, or are there really any changes in them?

I have looked through a lot of the early 70's comparing the old and new reprints and can't find any changes either, but it is a monstrous task, and I am wearing down. Please help me out!

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I have some old literature for sale

by libra_spirit in

if intrested please email me [email protected] , tell me what you are willing to pay, how you want it shipped, and what if anything you are going to do with it!

otherwise most is headed for the landfill where it belongs!.

watchtower bound volumes available.

libra_spirit

If intrested please email me [email protected] , tell me what you are willing to pay, how you want it shipped, and what if anything you are going to do with it! Otherwise most is headed for the landfill where it belongs!

Watchtower Bound Volumes Available

1952 thru 1967

1969 thru 1978

1980 thru 1982

1984

1986 thru 1987

1989

1993

Awake Bound Volumes Available

1952

1954 thru 1971

1973 thru 1984

1986 thru 1987

1993

Yearbooks

1904 Russell "Includes pages for birthdays" (I am going to keep this one, family history)

1940

1942 thru 1946

1948

1950 thru 1977

1979

1983

Many newer as well

Studies in the scriptures by Russell

title printing copywright

Thy Kingdom Come 1923 1891

Thy Kingdom Come (small version) 1920 1891

The Battle of Armageddon 1924 1897

The At-one-ment between god and man 1920 1899

The Divine Plan Of The Ages 1920 1899

The new creation 1924 1904

W.E. van Amburg

The Way To Paradise 1924 1924 2 copies

Rutherford

The Harp of God 1921

Comfort for the Jews 1925

Deliverance 1926

Creation 1927

Reconciliation 1928

Government 1928

Life 1929

Pfophecy 1929

Light (2 book series) 1,2 1930

Vindication (set of 3 books) 1,2,&3 1931-1932

Preservation 1932

Preparation 1933

Jehovah 1934

Riches 1936

Enemies 1937

Salvation 1939

Religion 1940

Children 1941

WTBS

Children (study questions) 1942

The New World 1942

Diaglott 1942

The truth shall make you free 1943

The Kingdom is at hand (1st edition) 1944

" (Study questions) 1944

Theocratic aid to kingdom publishers 1945

Equipped for every good work 1946

Let God be true 1946

This means everlasting Life (1st ed) 1950

What has Religion done for mankind (1st ed) 1951

New heavens & new earth (1st ed) 1953

Qualified to be ministers 1955

Your will be done on earth 1958

From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained 1958

Let your name be sanctified 1st ed 1961

Babylon the Great has fallen 1963

Life everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966

Then is finished the mystery of God 1969

Theocratic ministery school guidebook 1971

Paradise Restored to Mankind by Theocracy 1972

Mans Salvation out of World Distress at hand 1975

Marley Cole

Jehovahs Witnesses the New World Society 1957

Song Books

Misc songbooks 1950

Tracts

Misc tracts 1940's to 1970's

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Horny Old Dogs

by Robdar in

i have been in communication with an epicopalian priest through yahoo personals.

he lives in south kansas but comes to this area often.

i met him yesterday at barnes and noble.

libra_spirit

Robdar,

Lighten up a bit girl. Just meet him at the door with a skimpy leather costume, spiked heels and a leather whip.

Invite him in, tie him up, and then pull out the vedio camcorder.

Your clip might make you richer then Monica Lewinski! And if things go well it won't even have to involve any actual sex...LOL!

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The Fine Art of Kissing

by Robdar in

i use to hate kissing.

i was a virgin until i was 19 and married.

i hadnt had a chance to experiment with kissing in my teenage years.

libra_spirit

Kissing begins lightly and gently on the mouth, then it moves to the back of the neck, down the arms to inside the elbow. And finally to the back of the knees and then the ankles to culminate at the toes! Progressing up to the inner thigh and then .... well you will have to imagine the rest.

Eric I hope you weren't wearing contacts, that eye stuff sounds kinda cool!

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How Many are Single? How Many are Looking?

by Robdar in

i find myself finally becoming accustomed to the fact that i am single again.

i am no longer thinking in couple terms and i now cook to please only me.

it's fun and scary all at the same time.

libra_spirit

Single white male, 5' 10", 48yrs old. Employed. Honest, loving, caring Xdubbie. Have all my teeth! Used to ride a motorcycle.

Dabbeling with a relationship now but with no comittments, probably won't ever mary, had enough kids for one lifetime.

Live on my boat alone and love it! Drink wine and smoke a pipe whenever I like!

PM me if you are female and intrested in moving to Alaska!

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The New World Translation

by MrsQ in

jw
friends

can anyone give me an explanation of how the nw translation came about?

who, exactly, were on this bible translation committee, and what were their qualifications?

when was it first published?.

libra_spirit

I apologise for getting off subject but I can not resist commenting on this thread.

Translations of translations! Why?

What is the motive for creating new translations of a very old sacred text?

The only motive for all these changes that I can see is to change the meanings, or to extract the meanings we would choose. Since none of us really comprehend the origional texts anymore in the sense they were written, then it all comes down to second hand information, or basically gossip! If one is to truly channel Gods Holy Spirit, then why not just start over with a new inspired text, rather then a New World Translation view of a very old text? Why all the claim to be alligned with the "true and pure" vision of the ancient past? Maybe back then it wasn't any more then a vision of what someone channeled then. I think the real message from the Bible, other then just history, is that we should all be able to connect with Holy Spirit and write a current new message to ourselves as a culture, rather then try to continue and validate and argue over the old ones.

The Society would have us believe that it is the annointed with Jesus in heaven who are responsible for translating the NWT and that thier seal of approval is upon this book. However intresting to note that most of the annointed celebrated Christmas and believed in the cross. It is only the great crowd, somehow stuck on the earth forever, not as Revelation shows them in heaven, that seem to need these new translations to correct the errors of Christendom (and most of the old dead annointed as well). The NWT is a bible for earthly followers. Maybe someday they will even correct the rest of the errors. You know the ones showing Jesus had more then one nail in his hands, and that the Great crowd is in heaven...all those errors! The ones that refer to "ALL" Christians drinking Jesus blood and eating his flesh. Or maybe they can write in a few more classes of people and do a little more seperating work....all for Jehovah God ofcorse. I know being a slave for Christ can't be an easy task, and comming out with food at the proper time is hard when all you have to work with is a 2000 year old text that no one can really understand.

I think there may be a reason for all this Bible gossip. It's easier to get totally caught up in a quest to vindicate the meaning of some obscure scripture from ancient times then it is to deal with real life as it is today! To make valuable meaningful application of principles, rather then to use sacred words for the purpose of comdimnation and judgment! It's easier to find some Biblical reason for our actions of selfishness and our need for power over others and our elitist visions, rather then just admit that we are selfish and like power and all want to feel special. The admission makes us question ourselves, the Biblical quotes only distract us from what thier use is accomplishing.

So I say lets just totally start over and write a new Bible. Lets see "In the begining there was George Bush, no the first Bush not the one who is now, but the one who was!" "And Bush had a son" ............"And the son was also George and the son was George Bush!" And 2000 years from now people can argue over the meaning!....LOL!

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Timing Armageddon Fairly

by joelbear in

jw
friends

if life experiences can change people's heart conditons, how can god ever succeed in timing armageddon where everyone has had an equal fair shot to prove their real heart condition?

libra_spirit

Thier real heart condition? Come on, if your heart can change then aren't they all real? Someone needs to build a little biofeedback machine that can read your heart condition, actually I think that doctors do have a pretty good idea these days. I had one of those heart monitor tests, I think they read it pretty well. Why would I want some church to try to read my heart condition?

By the way it's really the elders who perform this wonderfully magical function, "reading hearts" in the JW's. Have you read the elders manual? If Jehovah is to time Armegeddon correctly he will have to check with them first! You know to be sure he's not violating any rules!

Actually one of our local elders has a pretty nasty heart condition. He almost died. I think it may have been his diet ...... Hmmmm. Anyway only Jehovah really knows, if that elder dies before Armegeddon then it will demonstraight his true heart condition, I hope Jehovah doesn't hold that against him.

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