Odd how they don't realize their behavior coincides with Job's so-called friends. Harassment (in their minds helping) while attempting to compelling Job to do something he was not willing to do. Even with the loss of 10 children, he didn't allow the other people to make him do anything.
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32My parents sent the elders after me
by atacrossroads ini stopped regulary attending meetings and going in field service in january.
the elders have left me alone for the most part i think because of my jw husband.
last week my parents came over and told me i needed to come back to meetings.
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Ray Franz was an Idiot
by vinman inray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
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Lieu
I see someone here was raised by goats; no manners.
Ray Franz' belief in God but disbelief in men playing God doesn't make him a moron. It makes him human.
What you may fail to understand as an atheist, when you belittle others for their personal beliefs which don't match yours, you're just as bad as the arse holes claiming everyone is going to hell for not holding their particular beliefs.
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2 Scriptures to De-Rail the Organization's Claim that their Child Abuse Claims are based on Scripture
by LAWHFol inmr.jackson was quite adamant, to his claim that the witness's policies are based on the scriptures.
if these scriptures have already been brought up, i apologize, but if not i feel that they are valuable.. 1. regarding the 2 witness rule :.
the witnesses use scriptures like deuteronomy 19:15 to support their adherence to the 2 witness rule this scripture clearly emphasizes the necessity of 2 or 3 witnesses, however there are reasonable exceptions.. one example is in deuteronomy 22:23 & 22:25. verse 23 says "if there is a betrothed virgin, and a man meets her in the city and lies with her,".
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What does it mean to be inactive??
by DATA-DOG inwell, i sat through day 1 or the "imitate jesus" convention.
they released the new brochure for inactive ones.
while no tomo-esque rants took place, it seems that the official policy is that "inactivity" merits the death sentence.
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Lieu
It means you don't go out in Field Service (knocking on doors, reporting said efforts on a Time Slip, etc) or you likely do not attend all the meetings.
The world of JW is full of labels with double meanings.
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Is Jackson embarrassed to be a JW?
by Doubting Bro ini listened to the majority of jackson's part one testimony and it seems apparent to me that he either:1) is embarrassed to be a jw or 2) doesn't really believe.
i've heard countless times from the platform and in print that we should be proud to be jws and take every opportunity to defend our beliefs.
yet, it seems jackson didn't even want to admit that he believed he was being directly used by jehovah to lead the congregation as his spokesman.
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Lieu
JW "Theocratic Warfare" is nothing but lying & lying & more lying. No biblical follower of Christ was a liar, nor practiced to deceive, except Judas Iscariot and the "wolves in sheep's clothing". Real brothers of Christ spoke their beliefs boldly even to their deaths.
Guy is simply a liar & a coward. He lies to the "flock" and he lied to appointed authorities. It's a blatant acknowledgement that he and his cohorts have no "spirit direction" from God. He's an asshole of a Peter; afraid of admitting knowing HIS voted on policies. He's not even going to feel bad about his lies, quite the opposite.
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
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Lieu
Oh yeah? The Monroe Doctrine, the Doctrine of predestination, etc ... which or what "Doctrine" ? -
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Lieu
Thinking about killing yourself? DONT!!!! God cares, your family cares, and we care about you. I think you should speak with a professional about it. Also, try and get into some outdoor activities and hobbies to keep yourself focused on living life happily. We must love ourselves first.
Pay no mind to the negative comments, some people here don't have the good sense to know when their comments are highly improper at best & at worst, detrimental. Don't get hung up on the negative.
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New Congregation Position Soon? ELDERESS?
by 7Starz ini just listened to most of geoffrey jackson's royal commission testimony and i have to say i really enjoyed the multiple times he had to state he would get back to them and would research their questions.. the royal commission was asking if policy could be changed to have women serve on a committee to decide the case and then that bodies decision be brought to the elders to decide whether to show mercy or to disfellowship and individual.
three times the judge had to ask mr. jackson to answer his question.. it was amazing how jackson could not find a scripture to show his honor that women were prohibited to serve as elders.
he could only support that men are appointed as elders.. hmm... i've never been a member of the governing body with all their years of so called spiritual training, but even i remember deborah the prophetess, when the judge asked jackson if women could serve as a judge.. i was so hoping that the judge or mr. stewart would refer to deborah.
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Lieu
They'd be worse than the men at the onset because they'll be trying to prove they're just as stringent. Besides elders wives are the biggest gossip mongering trouble causers in most Congs. You would need rotation among all the female members for something like that to work. Or else you will have just created another small group of power abusing individuals. -
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Advice on Waiting for Jehovah
by Anon_SA1 inhi guys, .
in discussions with a current jw, they told me that have big concerns with regards to the 607 bce date, but they are waiting on jehovah for refining.
any suggestions on questions to pose to them based on their feedback?.
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Human rights issue
by possum inhi, i am possum and have been posting for a short time just thought i would introduce myself with much trepidation.
i am a third generation ex witness.
grandparents originally lured into cult in 1920 after the death of a precious child.
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Lieu
Welcome! Keep going towards the light. You've been in darkness long enough.