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  What is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?

  does any one has an actual number?

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  Lieu

  Why would they have to sign a vow of poverty? Are they monks?

  Also, too, if they don't come from a rich family, they don't have money anyway. We are talking mostly 20 somethings with little more than a HS education working at a book factory, yes.
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  JW message becoming more and more relevant

  by lsw1961 in

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  2. beliefs

  mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

  however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

  somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.

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  Lieu

  I don't believe we are descendants of monkeys because with the right pepper sauce, monkey meat & brains tastes great! So soft, so sweet and creamy.
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  JW message becoming more and more relevant

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

  however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

  somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.

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  Lieu

  When you think about it, that whole rapy thing wasn't without purpose.

  We have the custom of carrying a new bride across the "threshold" of a house or some such dwelling. That actually comes from Romulus getting wives for his men. They killed the men of surrounding Italian tribes and carried off the women to be their wives; rape victims kicking and screaming. They had to drag and carry them into their houses. Yet, this custom which comes from mass rape is looked upon favorably today by Western societies.

  Ancient people, ancient times.

  Now, in the Bible if you raped someone, basically soiling her, you had to marry and take care of her. Gross, I know. But you couldn't run around like the Scandinavians just pillaging and raping. It comes from that whole Tribe of Benjamin incident. However, your raping activity was stopped there because if you rape another, you've committed adultery and that was punishable by death. In the ancient Middle East the rocks they used to bash your head in weren't small. That's what you get.

  It's best not to rape.
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  JW message becoming more and more relevant

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

  however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

  somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.

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  Lieu

  I didn't notice you at first, Outlaw. You've figured out how to change your avatar! 😆 Welcome back!!!
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  JW message becoming more and more relevant

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

  however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

  somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.

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  Lieu

  Isw1961, you've got nothing but a false prophesy. Piss off !

  Now, I'm off to smoke cigars and get drunk like Rutherford.
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  JW message becoming more and more relevant

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

  however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

  somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.

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  Lieu

  None of us care care what Euros think. It's a warped sense of thinking. It's greed based. Based on useless " pet" rocks the rest of us don't give fa la la about. Euros took a community based Middle Eastern religion of peace and turned it into shiite based on their own warped concepts of GREED.
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  Who or What is the Holy Spirit?

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.

  (one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).

  the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.

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  Lieu

  Meh, crazyguy. Egyptian beliefs are ripoffs of Assyrian beliefs or Syriac (Aramaic) beliefs which is where Abraham came from. So no, Abrahamic religion isn't a ripoff of Egypt. Quite the opposite.
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  JW message becoming more and more relevant

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

  however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

  somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.

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  Lieu

  I don't care what anyone else believes and I don't belittle them for it. We each must find and cultivate the beliefs that fit us individually and not try and FORCE them on others.

  Life is too short to get high blood pressure worrying about the beliefs of those who don't pay your bills. I'll believe what I want, if YOU don't wish to believe the same, it's fine with me.

  Btw, I grew up in a rain forest and monkey tastes great!
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  The Appeal and Draw of the Watchtower

  by Saved_JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i first left the watchtower organization in 2008, a flood of emotions came back to me.

  betrayal, anger, resentment, deep depression from the relationships lost.

  emotions seemed to guide my viewpoint of others as well.

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  Lieu

  1. Resurrection of family

  2. You're special for being with us

  3. You're superior to everyone else

  4. You have knowledge that no one else has

  5. You have cut the "world" off because you're better than THEM

  If God so LOVED the "world" ..... what are you doing hating what God loved enough to redeem with his own Son's blood?
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  Saddest thing about being DFd

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i always enjoyed being kind.

  when someone genuinely needed a hand or what not, it felt good to help family or friends.. i don't really miss them anymore.

  i faded over two years ago, so they long ago shunned me.i think about them less and less and have even forgotten some names.i did enjoy some of the friendships and the association.

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  Lieu

  I find the whole "disfellowshipping" thing odd. Here's why.

  Satan, the liar, and the very accuser of God Almighty, is given audience before God to irritate Job. Kill his kids, etc. Later, he tempts Christ, and Christ speaks to him without condemnation. Now this guy is a pure POS, but everyone heavenly is still talking to him and his cohorts.

  When you think about it, who are we as humans to stop talking to someone we disagree with on trivial matters when Angelic forces, to include the Almighty himself, have not done the same with the most rotten evil asshole in the universe?

  Seriously, THINK about it.