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  DESTROYING the Governing Body’s claim of authority

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  destroying the governing body’s claim of authority.

  begin at the beginning.

  what source authority did early christians have?.

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  Lieu

  Well, there's no proof to any of the GB's claims; never has been. It's pretty much all "because I say so" with nothing to back it up. Simply self appointment.

  Faithful and discreet Slave - because I said I am

  God's channel of communication - because I said I am

  Christ's substitutes - because I said I am

  (G)aurdians (O)f (D)octrine - because I said I am

  Glorious Ones - because I said I am

  Don't question about it me either.

  They are 'end times' fenatics. Their message is strictly doom and gloom. There's no light load, rest, or peace with end timers. A lot of drinking tho'.

  Over 100 years of wild speculation on a worldwide scale leading to the flagrant destruction of their memberships' lives. From the rebranding of the failed 1914, to Rutherford's failed 1925, to Fred Franz failed 1975 (yes, Fred himself gave the Feb 1975 Convention address in LA's Sports Arena espousing that crazy mess) ... then blaming the false prophesy whooplah on low members errant "expectations".

  They began that way and will end that way. It works for them.
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  So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so can someone clarify this please?.

  the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.

  especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.

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  Lieu

  Yeah, they said the "faithful slave" won't be known until a future time.

  (As for authority, slaves don't have any, they're property.)

  It'll change back, imo. It seems to me some sort of legal ploy to get out of responsibility in the various lawsuits and trials.
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  Why are some that post here JW apologists?

  by ctrwtf in

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  my rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board.

  those who at once rail against the jw's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions.

  those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.. i understand the power of cognitive dissonance.

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  Lieu

  Hmmm. I'd say each will react differently to ttatt. At first discovery, apathy, then anger, then confusion, etc. The real person was being suppressed along with the ability to analyze. I can't dislike them because they are us and they, like us, are here for a reason.

  Also, just because you no longer are caught in the snare doesn't mean everyone still caught is some monster to be despised. It's okay to say something nice from time to time, even about your enemy. It puts you on higher ground. Plus, JWS don't get much internal positive comments, it's all negative.

  Besides, the mind can't let everything go at once or you'll have a nervous breakdown. It let's go a bit at a time.
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  Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'

  by Londo111 in

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  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.

  jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.

  however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".

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  Lieu

  Meh, lying. Only the reason mankind was given the death sentence. And that whole Satan fellow being the "father of the lie", pfffft!

  No biggie. Let's all lie, it's fine. We'll just call lying "spiritual warfare". Cause calling that poop in the toilet "rolos" changes everything.

  Yessireee.
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  Theodore Jaracz

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just reading the below article on theodore jaracz.

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/the-theocratic-life-and-times-of-theodore-jaracz/.

  although the article never states whyjaraz was suddenly removed from the australian branch.

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  Lieu

  Guy was mean spirited that's for certain. However, I would reserve saying he was a chicken hawk from one account. Usually the sexually depraved assault many children / women who for them are like a bag of potato chips. You can't have just one.
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  Video about boy to not play violin?

  by Crazyguy in

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  it looks to me as though they are saying don't play at a higher level because your then in competition?

  so if i'm correct what if any bible scriptures can be used to back up this anti competitive idea and are there other scriptures showing the opposite?.

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  Lieu

  King David would have a huge sad about the violin playing youngster. Do we think he made all those songs (psalms) to the tunes of crappy harp players? Do we believe there was no process to choose who would play music in the court of the King?

  JW spiritual music is devoid of any feeling and originality. Enough to make any omnipotent diety hearing it scream in agony.

  And how can one "down" competition while proclaiming the virtues of "running the race for life", the biggest competition there is? Isn't everyone trying to win that? You don't win if you don't compete.

  Poor kid. Hell end up a janitor making minimum wage when he could support himself using his skilled musical talent in a local orchestra.

  Why suck the joy out of every aspect of life?
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  New commentary on revelation coming up?

  by EdenOne in

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  i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.

  together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.

  still awaiting solid confirmation though.

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  Lieu

  Rutherford said those 7 blasts were fulfilled in the 7 conventions (Cedar Point anyone) back in the day when Jesus chose JWs to be 'special'.

  No worries, according to past "light" there's no real action going to happen they simply symbolize some talks from a platform. Depending on one's view, that's either a serious disappointment or a good thing in a laid back way.

  What, it's changing again?

  My new commentary is that we are living not in the "last days" but at the end of the 1000 year reign. Satan's about to be let loose (so no he wasn't in the smurfs) and the naughty will be in high gear drawing followers after themselves and away from Christ. Also, too, no petting large smelly wildlife surrounded by flies until after the naughty have disappeared forever ... and the flies.

  So, there.

  ***I see I was late mentioning the conventions. Sorry for the repeat.***
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  New commentary on revelation coming up?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
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  i heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.

  together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.

  still awaiting solid confirmation though.

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  Lieu

  Yeah, yeah. I sit a Queen and will never know widowhood. Bye whore.
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  Theodore Jaracz

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just reading the below article on theodore jaracz.

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/the-theocratic-life-and-times-of-theodore-jaracz/.

  although the article never states whyjaraz was suddenly removed from the australian branch.

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  Lieu

  From what I know of him, he was like most GB members, quite individualistic and could care less about "the brothers" or their needs. A company man with no mercy or feeling. More concerned with appearances than substance. His wife? Just as unconcerned about anyone but herself. Most were glad when he died.

  He was no Christlike man, he was an asshole.
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  Why the “Doomsday Underground Bunker” Videos of Jehovah’s Witnesses May Be More Prophetic Than You Think

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jwvictims.org/2016/06/05/why-the-doomsday-underground-bunker-videos-of-jehovahs-witnesses-may-be-more-prophetic-than-you-think/.

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  Lieu

  Awesome!! The world is in turmoil yet bunker buddies have coffee and cookies.

  Well, here's to hoping for much better conversation in prison.