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  Hypothetical Question...

  by JW_Rogue in

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  i was just thinking that the org has said lots of outrageous things over it's history and most jws just continue onward without a second thought.

  so my question is what do you think would have to be said from the platform or wt to get people to get up and walk out immediately?

  is it even possible?

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  Lieu

  Good morning friends,

  Due to the unrelenting government persecution of our brothers worldwide, causing the Society to expend the majority of its finances in legal battles, (Ie we have to pay taxes, minimum wage, unemployment insurance, etc now, no fair) we request that congregations that are able (ie all of you) take in members of Bethel who have been let go along with Special Pioneers and Circuit Overseers; doing so with full gladness of heart. (Insert scripture here) Sadly, we at Bethel, are no longer in a position to see to the needs of so many faithful.

  It is our hope that Congregations will lovingly provide for their food, clothing, and shelter as these fine brothers have been fighting the fine fight for the faith in full time service to Jehovah and are deserving of our mercy. And how happy are the merciful!! (insert scripture here)

  Either something such as this or an outright 'we want you to commit suicide' should get peoples feet moving towards the door.
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  Can a baptism be annulled?

  by angel.face in

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  i joined this site about 4 years ago and life was very different to say the least.

  i was a jw and started the process of 'waking up' after experiencing life threatening blood loss due to complications of a pregnancy.

  i was married with two kids (husband was an ms) and was a stay-at-home mom.

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  Lieu

  Baptism by water is just a way to say you repent to God for your sins. It isn't a contract between humans. Did you sign something?

  John was baptizing people who wanted forgiveness. He wasn't doing it so that people belonged to him.
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  Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  i read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.

  hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.

  the lett effect?

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  Lieu

  It's just cheaper.
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  Jehovah went from love to fear--when?

  by gma-tired2 in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was a child and teen jw in 50s and 60s jehovah was always referred to as our loving god now we are warned not to fall in the hands of a god to be feared.

  when did jws change god from loving to a cruel god?

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  Lieu

  Humans on a power trip make everything about fear. Machiavellian concepts. Its better to be feared than loved. Machiavelli was a creep.

  Ignore it.
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  1914—The Turning Point in History - Really?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1914the turning point in history.

  30 from the human standpoint, the world troubles and global wars foretold in the bible were far from the thinking of the pre-1914 world.

  german statesman konrad adenauer said: thoughts and pictures come to my mind, .

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  Lieu

  Kinda easy when post 1880, you say every year is "the year".

  First an foremost, they have NO business trying to guess a date they're already told no one is to know. Since its Adventists roots, they have been trying to predict the time of "rapture". Considering the "rapture" didn't happen as Russell falsely prophesied, they switched it to an unscriptual INVISIBLE enthronement. Where the hell is that in the Bible again!?!

  As for WWI, it may have been a terrible war in modern times, but it isn't the worst war or even the first worldwide war. It was nothing but another war between Europeans. Greece and Rome went all over the known world warring. Before them, the Assyrians and Egyptians. After them the European conquests of the Continents.(Now these were actually worldwide)

  Also, too, the Gentiles Times have not ended or are the GB members Jews? The most powerful nation on Earth today Israel or the Gentile USA?

  The problem with trying to interpret Biblical knowledge is European thought. It's a Middle Eastern text. Those were not Europeans in it or writing it.
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  The worst mistake in my life

  by outofthebox in

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  i did a cartoon (in spanish) about the worst mistake everyone makes.

  i hope you like it.. http://tejotitas.blogspot.com/2015/11/el-peor-error-de-mi-vida.html.

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  Lieu

  Small correction of RunForever's general translation:

  Since he stopped being a witness ....
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  No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

  by cognitivedizzy in

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  2. friends

  guys .

  a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

  i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

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  Lieu

  Over a billion people and most of the poor. So I take it everyone in India has free internet & tablets? Or are those with tablets supposed to go to a KH for downloads?
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  What would happen ??

  by Clambake in

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  2. experiences

  there is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.

  first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".

  he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".

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  Lieu

  Find your balls man! She's your wife and a new mother, for goodness sakes. Tell him in no uncertain terms to LEAVE. YOUR. WIFE. ALONE!!!

  Field Service????? Jesus sent mothers with newborns door to door? Is he CrAzY? This type of thing only happens when you deal with someone who has a serious case of the stupid.
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  "..Witnesses suffer from anxiety, depression, addiction...many have been lost to suicide. After reading this story, you may understand why.”

  by Penelope1 in

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  2. friends

  from the book, the least of gods priorities, by bo juel.

  please support bo in his efforts to expose the truth about the watchtower organization a secretive and destructive cult posing as gods organization on earth.

  his publication is now available in paperback or kindle through amazon.com.. check out chapter two--but grab some tissue first!.

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  Lieu

  How can one not be depressed when mentally/psychologically abused 2-3 times a week?

  The control freaks get their control from constantly telling the "flock" they are never good enough or doing enough or giving enough. Who can take hearing 'you're a loser' all the time? Their sheep didn't get lost, they ran away.
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  Other Religious Groups Critical of Higher Education

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading an essay online about how witnesses are critical of higher education and discourage it.

  the editor's note said there are other conservative religious groups that hold the same view towards education.. there are?

  do any of you know of any religious group that works as hard as the jws at keeping their members stupid?.

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  Lieu

  Likely some small church groups in the US South that see learnin' as folly. Also those family "religions" where the guy has several wives and zillions of kids.