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  She is Going to Talk to the Elders About My Questions...What Should I Expect?

  by HeyThere in

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  2. beliefs

  so one of my in-laws, a born in dub, started asking me questions about the issues i am having with the religion.

  so i told her, rather carefully, how i discovered all the child pedophile cases, went over some of the case details, explained it is occurring all over the world, so isn't just some random misunderstanding, but is widespread hiding of child sex u all abuse.

  she was horrified.

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  HeyThere,

  You're unbaptised and hubby is a born in baptised... how does that work? Didn't he get in trouble for that?
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  Aussie outback Witnessing experience! Have you done isolated territory!

  by Witness 007 in

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  driving for miles between houses...sometimes i would lose a hub-cap and have to go back "hubcap hunting.

  " why bother since my car was as old as i was .....20 years.

  people that live 30 miles from town would be shocked to see us!

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  A group from the cong I grew up in did a trip to Border town and a few years later a trip to Coober Pedy (both in South Australia).

  The Coober Pedy trip was in my teens, and by then I had some questions and a lot of mental illness stuff going on. I felt so trapped the whole time we were there!
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  Are you an "apostate"?

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm quite new to this site, and i've noticed that many of you are more than happy to call yourselves "apostates", even though many of you evidently believe in the bible and in jesus as saviour, etc.. i'm aware that the society brands anyone who disagrees with them as being an "apostate", but just because they choose to do this, does this mean we should be comfortable with being so branded?

  should we "bend over" and take it?.

  here is what the insight book says on apostasy:.

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  When I'm talking to jws or x-jws online I will describe myself as an apostate so you all know where I stand.

  If I'm talking to people who don't have this background I describe myself as an antitheist.
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  Just out of interest - how many Australians are on this site?

  by Son of a preacher man in

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  2. friends

  just out of interest id like to know how many aussies are posting?

  im on the east coast, been everywhere from desert to coast.

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  I only just found this thread, so maybe most of you won't see my post.

  Son of a preacher man, I remember rurals. I also remember big rural trips where a group of us would be shoved into a few station wagons and go somewhere further away for a few days to help a small cong out in the middle of nowhere.

  Brinjen, I've been to darwin a couple of times, but only since I left the JWs to go and visit my non-JW uncle and auntie. My mother has often talked about wanting to "serve where the need is greater" and one of the places she was considering was somewhere in the NT I think. The other place she had in mind was Derby. She seems to have this thing about going and witnessing to the Aboriginal people.

  Hi Penny, I'm in Adelaide too.

  Is anyone else here from SA?
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  Just out of interest - how many Australians are on this site?

  by Son of a preacher man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just out of interest id like to know how many aussies are posting?

  im on the east coast, been everywhere from desert to coast.

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  New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...

  by TheApostleAK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.

  i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.

  after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.

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  I heard of this happening in other congs in Adelaide as well.
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  New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...

  by TheApostleAK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.

  i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.

  after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.

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  In the congregation I grew up in, there was an elderly lady who was sometimes coming to the meetings and sort of having an on-and-off bible study. She was Italian and struggled a bit with English, and also she had dementia. She usually didn't know what day it was or who she was talking to, often confusing members of the congregation with her non-JW family. I heard talk afterwards that she had been taken advantage of by the congregation -- she would give someone money and they would put it in the box on top of donations she had already made, plus she took a lode of money out of the bank and gave it to the kh.

  I remember her giving me money as a present when I was a kid, she said it was for me and my mother told me that she really meant it was for the kh but had given it to me because she got confused.
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  IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satan’s Rule"

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

  as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

  the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

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  "Advances in technology. Some point to it as proof of things getting better in the world, but is it a good way to measure progress? Technology is used in warfare to kill and maim; used for entertainment that offends Jehovah, e.g. games, videos, websites featuring graphic sexual immorality, gruesome violence. "Technology is not a good way to measure progress in this world. The world is not getting better.""

  Oh yeah, because the WT's literature doesn't have graphic descriptions of gruesome violence (including in their stories for children).

  "We only had one Watchtower but now we have Public and Study editions. "That is progress. Things are getting better among Jehovah's people." Awake magazine, Kingdom Ministry - didn't have these 100 years ago."

  What...another fucking watchtower? Maybe it's because they don't want the public to read the horrific things in the study addition until they're at least partly sucked in.

  "Changes in civil rights, racial equality. Now people are more accepting, more open-minded, more tolerant. Some changes are for the better BUT "adultery - accepted; pre-marital sex - widely accepted." "Today, homosexual behavior is widely accepted. It seems that the goal is, someday, to make homosexuality widely obligatory." (Isa 5:20,21 - 'woe to those saying good is bad, bad is good' etc.)"

  Oh no, we can't let people have rights!
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  Ray Franz book's available in audio format! Crisis of Consciencs / Christian Freedom

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  everybody may already know this but i just happened to discover that crisis of conscience and in search of christian freedom are now available as audio books.

  they are not legal copies as commentary press did not make a audio version, however someone took the time to read every page of both books into a good mike.

  the sound quality is good and they are organized well for a iphone or ipod.

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  Thank you for sharing this.

  I am vision impaired and have been trying to find a copy of both of these books.
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  How long have you known TTATT and continued to participate?

  by LostGeneration in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i continue to be stunned by posters reporting on the convention, lamenting the convention, complaining about going in serve-us and meetings, and yet continuing to participate in these activities.. a simple question.

  how long have you done these things, fully knowing it is absolute bullshit?.

  i couldn't handle it for more than six months before i basically outed myself.

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  I left when I was 18. I didn't know TTATT but none of my questions were being answered and I couldn't stand the constant manipulation any more.

  I think the constant control makes young people vulnerable when they first leave. They are told they will get hurt when they leave but it's the WT that makes that true not the "world".

  When I left the JWs I left home as well because my mother was a strict JW and so was the arsehole she had recently married.

  I found a place on the opposite side of town.

  When I told my mother I was leaving, she started shouting at me, threw me on the ground in a headlock, hit me a few times and told me I would be raped and murdered within a week.