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  Just out of interest - how many Australians are on this site?

  by Son of a preacher man in

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  just out of interest id like to know how many aussies are posting?

  im on the east coast, been everywhere from desert to coast.

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  New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...

  by TheApostleAK in

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  it's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.

  i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.

  after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.

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  I heard of this happening in other congs in Adelaide as well.
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  New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...

  by TheApostleAK in

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  it's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.

  i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.

  after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.

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  In the congregation I grew up in, there was an elderly lady who was sometimes coming to the meetings and sort of having an on-and-off bible study. She was Italian and struggled a bit with English, and also she had dementia. She usually didn't know what day it was or who she was talking to, often confusing members of the congregation with her non-JW family. I heard talk afterwards that she had been taken advantage of by the congregation -- she would give someone money and they would put it in the box on top of donations she had already made, plus she took a lode of money out of the bank and gave it to the kh.

  I remember her giving me money as a present when I was a kid, she said it was for me and my mother told me that she really meant it was for the kh but had given it to me because she got confused.
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  IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satan’s Rule"

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

  as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

  the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

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  "Advances in technology. Some point to it as proof of things getting better in the world, but is it a good way to measure progress? Technology is used in warfare to kill and maim; used for entertainment that offends Jehovah, e.g. games, videos, websites featuring graphic sexual immorality, gruesome violence. "Technology is not a good way to measure progress in this world. The world is not getting better.""

  Oh yeah, because the WT's literature doesn't have graphic descriptions of gruesome violence (including in their stories for children).

  "We only had one Watchtower but now we have Public and Study editions. "That is progress. Things are getting better among Jehovah's people." Awake magazine, Kingdom Ministry - didn't have these 100 years ago."

  What...another fucking watchtower? Maybe it's because they don't want the public to read the horrific things in the study addition until they're at least partly sucked in.

  "Changes in civil rights, racial equality. Now people are more accepting, more open-minded, more tolerant. Some changes are for the better BUT "adultery - accepted; pre-marital sex - widely accepted." "Today, homosexual behavior is widely accepted. It seems that the goal is, someday, to make homosexuality widely obligatory." (Isa 5:20,21 - 'woe to those saying good is bad, bad is good' etc.)"

  Oh no, we can't let people have rights!
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  Ray Franz book's available in audio format! Crisis of Consciencs / Christian Freedom

  by Indian Larry in

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  2. bible

  everybody may already know this but i just happened to discover that crisis of conscience and in search of christian freedom are now available as audio books.

  they are not legal copies as commentary press did not make a audio version, however someone took the time to read every page of both books into a good mike.

  the sound quality is good and they are organized well for a iphone or ipod.

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  Thank you for sharing this.

  I am vision impaired and have been trying to find a copy of both of these books.
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  How long have you known TTATT and continued to participate?

  by LostGeneration in

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  i continue to be stunned by posters reporting on the convention, lamenting the convention, complaining about going in serve-us and meetings, and yet continuing to participate in these activities.. a simple question.

  how long have you done these things, fully knowing it is absolute bullshit?.

  i couldn't handle it for more than six months before i basically outed myself.

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  I left when I was 18. I didn't know TTATT but none of my questions were being answered and I couldn't stand the constant manipulation any more.

  I think the constant control makes young people vulnerable when they first leave. They are told they will get hurt when they leave but it's the WT that makes that true not the "world".

  When I left the JWs I left home as well because my mother was a strict JW and so was the arsehole she had recently married.

  I found a place on the opposite side of town.

  When I told my mother I was leaving, she started shouting at me, threw me on the ground in a headlock, hit me a few times and told me I would be raped and murdered within a week.
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  jw.org getting out of hand

  by Gorbatchov in

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  it seems the watchtower staff have made a runaway train with the introduction of the mark jw.org.. the combination of using a gadget driven platform and the fact that the common jw is low educated and easely influenced.

  by new occurrings in their religion makes the situation getting out of hand.. proof: gb members wearing jw.org buttons during their speech, gifts with jw.org are given away, umbrellas with the jw.org are available.

  jw.org is more important then god, his son and the gospel.. it's the gadget and the jw.org mark that counts.. i am so happy my grandparents are not confronted with these idiots.. it's a runaway train heading to the end of the track.. gorby .

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  Apparently in my mother's congregation:

  Almost all of the brothers take an ipad onto the platform when they do a talk (for their notes and what ever publications they need, and sometimes even don't take a bible).

  Most of the congregations sits with their ipad on their laps instead of the WT or whatever other publications.

  Some of them even take it out witnessing to show people the jw.org site.
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  Mental Health Issues in JW Women

  by Seven in

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  2. medical

  here's a click to the cultic studies journalissue concerning jw women.

  [url] http://www.csj.org/pub_csj/csj_vol14_no1_97/abs_wifely.htm#top[/url]

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  The rule that the man is the "head" of the household and the woman is the "weaker vessel" creates an environment where a woman can not have her own thoughts and identity, and where abuse is likely to go unnoticed. All the power is given to the men.
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  Ho Hum, just another JW sex abuse case

  by Dubby in

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  judge blasts church over sex offences .

  by michele tydd .

  a wollongong judge yesterday launched a scathing attack on the jehovah's.

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  Waiting, there are mandatory reporting laws in Australia.

  I was abused as a child (but not by a JW), and my mother and I were seeking some sort of support from some of the members of the local congregation. We were approached by one of the elders (who was our book study conducter) and told not to talk about it. Apparently "people might get the wrong idea". I think he was scared someone might think it was a JW. So I had to shut up.
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  Drugs....why?

  by Tigger in

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  im new here, so go easy with me!

  just wanted to know if any one has any idea's or personal experience in regard to drug and alcohol abuse in former jw's.

  all the one's i know have just lost the plot when it comes drugs and alcohol, especially drug use.

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  I think there is a lot of truth in all of these answers.

  I was raised by a strictly JW mother. Occasionally she would have a glass of wine with dinner, or one beer if we visited my nonJW grandparents.

  I'd had severe depression and anxiety since at least the beginning of myteens, and at 15 was also diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder. My doctor and I had a massive struggle to get my mother to allow me to take the antidepressants that I needed, and she still gave me a hard time about it constantly. (I wasn't praying enough and my faith needed to be stronger and I wasn't "relying on jehovah". All my problems would go away in the "new system", so I didn't need to worry about them now.)

  When I was eighteen she married a man who was also JW and who is very abusive towards her.

  Around this time I started drinking regularly. I would often sneak large quantities of alcohol into the house at night without my mother or that arsehole knowing about it.

  Soon though, that wasn't numbing the pain enough. There was a family in the congregation whose house I used to hang out at a lotbecause I couldn't stand being at home, and because at the time I thought they actually gave a damn about me. I knew the brother had a regular supply of strong pain medication and I started finding excuses to ask him for it.

  Soon after that I managed to escape the grip of the JWs and moved to the other side of town.

  Suddenly I hardly knew anyone; the brainwashing was over and I was able to see that everything I had been taught my whole life was all lies; the aspects of myself that I had burried because they didn't fit with cult law could surface; I was constantly being guilt tripped by my mother; I was vulnerable because I had always been totaly sheltered and then when I was preyed upon my mother said it was because I had "turned my back on jehovah".

  The level of my drinking increased and since I was not under constant supervision I started seeking out more drugs.