mr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.
as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.
i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?
Indian Larry6 minutes agohowever any Witnesses that are listening may wonder about that. Especially since they are aware of the entire context of Rev. 7 which specifically states that these are males from the tribes of Israel. Just trying to get some to think outside the box. That is the first step to breaking the hold the cult has on their brain.
Besides, for him to try to answer that may be awkward and anything that throws him off his game is fine with me.
and the outcome....we had a blast!
guess what?
no sex on the table with the other mate (swapping), no cocaine snorting or weed smoking.
mr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.
as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.
i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?
Imdian Larry: Imsuspect he'll explain it away as women serving Jehovah in two contexts:
The earthly one where they are subjugated under men.
The heavenly one where it is sexless and all serve equally.
Exactly what his evidence to support this would be Im sure he'll find plenty selective biblical quotes to interpret in the way they (GB) have always done.
Good question nonetheless.
please don't click the link if you feel details of abuse would upset you http://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/letter-to-the-director-of-public-prosecutions-from-steven-unthank-in-relation-to-discontinuing-the-criminal-trial-february-2012-pdf.pdf.
looking at some of the events that led up to the rc in australia i came across this letter, submitted to the d.p.p.
by steven upthank, in relation to the crown discontinuing prosecution of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.
I would suggest the compass was an illusion created by men who had no scientific understanding. Ill use two examples.
1) Thoughts of a sexual nature are regarded as unclean and forbidden. But we are not the masters of these impulses, our hormones are. We can at best only control the outcome of these impulses. If these impulses are evil, why do we get them and get them often? If there's a God who designed us, this would suggest there is a major design flaw.
2) Much of the behaviour (eg. Suicidal tendencies, addictions) deemed as demonic we know today as being the result of chemical imbalances and various other biological elements in the equation and not some paranormal force. Again if we insist on hanging onto this belief system we suggest a design flaw when He's supposed to be perfect and all powerful.
I don't suggest I'm in the right here, merely that this is my view with the issue of judging human behavior with biblical principle.
and the outcome....we had a blast!
guess what?
no sex on the table with the other mate (swapping), no cocaine snorting or weed smoking.
Toes: that's great to hear. Reality is a lot less about doom and gloom than people would have you think.
cognac14 hours agoAwwww, that's so awesome!!!
Today my 6 year old insisted on a birthday cake. So, we celebrated her birthday. Again. It is not her birthday, lol
You sound like the world's greatest mom. Nice to know there are parents like you, it gives me a lot of hope for the future generation!
hey guys.
this was just put up on the rc site.
rc will recommence on the 14th august.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
what question would you ask geoffrey jackson, as a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, to answer?
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jw leaks.
Like other posters before me I would want to know in concise terminology exactly how God communicates with them. I believe this issue is at the core of the cult, it's how they claim all their guidance from policy to belief is made manifest.
I believe this is an opportunity to either showcase him as a deliberate deciever or someone who absolutely believes his own lies. Either way there will be those who will regard it as nonsense and those who will still believe him and for the former that's still a win in my book.
i was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.
i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.
a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.
Hi there Atacrossroads. This forum is filled with people with a genuine compassion for one another. There is some fantastic advice left in this thread by folks far more experienced and mentally equipped than I, so I'll just offer you my sympathy and wish you all the best.
at the regional convention (national!!
) for scotland, mark sanderson elicited 13 rounds of applause during his closing talk, (for the least little things!
) plus a final one for his closing prayer!
