Posts by Lindy

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I hate being a phoney!

by Matty in

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i need a vent guys, i hope you all don't mind!

i'm not sure what has happened to me today of all days, but i just can't fight back the tears.

i guess it must be the pretence fatigue kicking in.

Geez, it is like reading about myself and many others here. I felt like that for years, and years, almost drove me nuts. I knew for a long time something was really wrong, but didn't think it was the "truth". You are taught if you doubt, it is you that has the problem. I started to fade away because I couldn't stand the crap anymore, and then one day I got on line and the rest is history. I slowly stopped going even more and then moved into another territory and stopped altogether. So now I am "inactive" and no one comes looking anymore. It took a long time, a couple years, to finally get myself together, and I started college at the age of 51 and still going. It is wonderful. I have met my group of buds there, I love my life now. Made all new friends, except the "worldly" ones I had before I left, and life is wonderful. Change doesn't happen overnight, so give yourself time to work it all out. If shit comes down, deal with it head on, and walk away...Then pick yourself up slowly and move on. There is way to much out here in REAL life to waste anymore of it in "fantasy land". I don't come on this site much anymore...so I hope I am not offending you, but you seem to be getting yourself together, and it is my feeling that you will be alright....just need some reassurance that you are NOT being phony, and that things WILL work out in time.....They do.....best of life to you!

As Always,

Lindy (Aunty----Antique)

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PROMISES with a CATCH!

by Blueblades in

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people are often willing to endure great sacrifices in order to obtain what they have been promised will be theirs in the future.the wt.society promises people that if they become faithful jw's.and endure to the very end,they will then live on a beautiful new earth.the pictures in the societies publications can be very attractive and eye-catching.but with every promise there is a catch.even if this promise were true ( and it is not),in order for you to have even a chance of obtaining entrance into this new earth you must sit through five boring meetings every week,spend at least ten hours every month in "field service"(that is going from door to door),be in complete submission to the vast control the society has over every part of your life, absent yourself from any family gatherings at holidays or birthdays, not be involved in competitive sports,hate everyone else in the world as being evil,and never question anything the society does---even if the society changes its doctrine to just the opposite of what it use to teach.worse yet ,the society never informs you that the new earth they promise is something which,to be realized,you must spend one thousand years in strenuously building it by manual labor.yes," promises with a catch",start out with an attractive bait attached to its hook.most people, including myself, do not realize or have not realized that, promises with a catch are very easy to get caught up with and very difficult to get out of.do you find this to be true?has it happened to you?for most on this board i know it has.i want to thank all of you for helping me and my own to come out from under the societies "promises with a catch".

blueblades

Lindy

You both are right. I grew up in it too, and it was very hard to realize that I had been so controlled... That is all it is about..Control, greed and power....same with all religions as far as I can see...

Freedom is so nice. I can think, do and be who I really am, take me or leave me. Those who like me, really like me, and not because I am a "sister." Or that I am "in" at the hall, or because I pioneer, or married to an elder or ....well you get it! How good is that!? To be who you are and to be actually liked for that!? They haven't got a clue!

Gopher, it really does get easier as time goes by....and life gets much more real and a lot more fun.

As Always,

Lindy

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Northeast Ohio?

by The Firm in

my first post :-).

wondering if anyone here is from northeast ohio.

not necessarily looking for any specific reunion, but really anyone online here that may be geographically available to discuss jw matters.

Lindy

I'm here a bit soutwest of Akron, between Medina and Wooster. Been here 'bouts most of my life.

As Always

Lindy

48

Have you joined another religion?

by freedom96 in

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i don't think i will never join another organized religion.

that being said however, i have enjoyed going on occasion to non-denominational churches, watching the band play music, and the speaker.

if you did or would attend another church regularly, which one would you go to and why?

Lindy

Nope, I haven't. I researched tons while I was leaving and lots afterwards. I believe that there is a creator of sorts, but no more than that as of now. I figure if there is someone there and they want me to know, they had better make it REALLY clear after the JWdom thing. So far, nothing...and I ain't sittin waiting either....

As Always,

Lindy

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I did it, I did it, I did it! Yah, yah yah!

by COMF in

i've been on vacation for the past week.

i elected to stay home and devote my time to getting several projects accomplished around the house.

i made myself a solemn vow that come what may, i was absolutely going to get a table built for my patio this week.

Lindy

Hey COMF old friend, I haven't seen talked with you in forever!! Nice deck!! My life has took a huge turn since we last talked. I saw your name and realized how much I missed you. Email me sometime. [email protected]

I come on here infrequently anymore, and I hardly recognize any of the names anymore. I saw Dannyboy. Hi Danny if you are reading this. You can email me too if ya want to... anyone else who knows me can too if they feel a need for that matter. COMF, hope all is going good in your life!

Love ya,

Lindy (Antique)

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Joseph Moore

by obiwan in

i am looking for my father in alaska,if you read this please reply to.

me.. wow it's a wide open world,use your.

own thoughts.

Lindy

obiwan,

Any relationship to Paul Moore?

As Always,

Lindy

15

"All of them witches"...

by Preston in

"all of them witches" was the name of the book that mia farrow read in in the film "rosemary's baby" which eventually lead her to believe that ruth grodon, ralph bellamy, and several other actors from the 40's and 50's rooming in her apartment were satan-worshippin' wiitches.

in this day in age i think people who are witches in real life have to live with various stereotypes permeated from movies, t.v.

shows, and whatnot.

Lindy

My daughter is a witch, pagan. She is not Wiccan, although she explored that first. There is a difference. Like someone said, male witches are not warlocks. The journey is individual, and thus the coven, church, or group, supports each member on their journey of self-awareness. A lot of exJWs seem to gravitate towards being pagan, or becoming wiccan. My youngest daughter has been going to the rituals recently and my son, my eldest child is also pagan, and has been for a long time. Their church has rituals each month. They also have other celebrations they attend. I have not attended a ritual yet. I have no real interest in replacing JWdom with anything else. I will probably go eventually, just to check it out, but I have doubts that it will be anything permanent. i have no inner need for any sort of organized belief system at this time.
People feel a need to belong, and some feel the need for belonging to a spiritual group. Paganism is just another way to explore your spirituality. Don't be afraid of it, it is just another diversity that the world has to offer. Read up on it, it is very interesting.

Here's my daughter's site: < http://www.geocities.com/tinkastar (Her kid's site which has stuff spelled out in simplicity so that children can understand it, but is good for adults too.) or
< http://www.geocities.com/tinkarae which is her personal site with pagan links on it. Hope this helps.

As Always,
Lindy

11

Satan Mounts Attack

by tdogg in

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friends

united states-.

satan the devil, the wicked one, launched an extraordinary offensive tonight against jehovah himself.

after taking control of the souls of nbc dateline reporters, the devil made a vicious and unprecedented attack against gods own organization.

Lindy

Isn't it funny, "a wave of persecution?" The WTBTS has their followers well trained huh? It is in them to respond without thinking to anything negative about the Society. The next week or so, while this stuff is fresh, it will be interesting to hear the comments of the JWs and how they respond. Most will defend the society somehow, totally ignoring what was brought out. If they don't then they have to think for themselves and we all know where that leads. Most JWs aren't ready for that!
It is so sad, it makes you wonder what it takes to make people see the facts and the real "truth." I know for me it took years of garbage piling up to the sky. For others it takes very little. I guess it depends on what you have to loose and what that means to each one, whether it is worth it or not. I wish I had seen the "light" much sooner.
Lindy

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About Daniel Fitzwater-Exposed on Dateline

by LFitzwater in

this is a very long story that i will try to condense.

it will still probably be too long.

life is good for us now that we know the real truth.

Lindy

Thank you for sharing your story. It only confirms what is being said over and over again. If nothing else, all these things will hlep other victims who have not, and of some, who for their own reasons will not, come forward with their own story knowing now that they are not alone.
As far as the "in good standing while in prison and still preaching in prison." I know a convicted child molester from the KH who while in jail was still in "good standing." there are legal technicalities why the local Elders can't DF while these ones are in prison, but when released they can be. The one I know of was DF directly after he was released. So there is hope, especially after Dateline has now aired his dirty laundry that Dan Fitzwater will be DFed after he gets out like the "brother" I knew. The Elders have to keep the "congregation clean" and they can't have anyone bring "reproach upon Jehovah's Organization" you know. It is all such a joke, isn't it?
I wish you well, and am sorry that you have gone through hell with all this too. But now you know that you are hardly alone, and can take some comfort in the fact that due to the courage of Silent Lambs and others, that some of this shit will be dealt with and that through all these ones courage and your own, that not all of the victims will be silenced no longer.
Lindy

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Dateline---That was It?

by Lindy in

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friends

well, i am bucking the general consensus here that everything went well on dateline.

i thought it was fine as far as it went but looking at it through the local jw eyes it will not get what you all and i hoped for.

the show didn't put proof on all the cases we all know about.

Lindy

Spidermonkey,
welcome to the site. I am sorry for your pain. Keep looking and exploring. So many things become clear in time. I have been away for about 7 years no, just walked. The longer I am away and the more open my mind becomes the more clearer things get. that will happen to you too. It is so sad that all this has been going on. But at least now it is being exposed. In time more will happen. But don't expect the Society to fall anytime soon. They are a business and a good one. they will do what ever it takes to stay afloat, and most JWs won't even blink an eye. It is like that in all big business. Look at the huge scandal in the Cathloic Church about child molestation. What real good did and is it doing? Not a lot when you take into account the all in all. It will be the same for the Society in the long hall. They will change a few rules to survive and go right on without a blink of an eye. The people hurt will have their hurt and the Society won't care any more than they do now. It will just be that more people will be aware, nothing more. But that may be enough.

Lindy