Posts by Igot2bme

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

@Discreet Slave- Good idea! I am so going to do that! I believe in going out with a BANG! I want to tell my side of the story and let as many people as possible know why I am leaving and the org is a cult.

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Igot2bme

@Iquit- Thank you, and yes I don't think I could mentally keep up with living the lie. I really hammered the point home to them was how this is a money making corparation masked in a religion. The people that used to be my friends already ignore me, I have also cut off the ones who would call me and count me for time. I had three sisters who would come to my house or call me just to use me for time!

@JamieBowers-I am shocked that they gave me a choice to considering all I had said to them. I am very sorry that happened to you, and yes it is a very vile corporation. I brought out to the elders how I felt that the Org treats sisters just how J. Ruthaford did, with contempt, and also how they treat victims of abuse. I told them that the Org is no better than the religions that they condemn. If god was truly with them they wouldn't treat thier most vunerable people that way!

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Igot2bme

@Cantleave-

@Sizemilk- I agree with you and Scully. I decided not to write the letter, plus I don't think I will be at home. I still have a few things to do before I exit and I will exit on my terms or they can DF me but I will not give them a letter of resignation.

@Pams Girl- Thank you, I will definitly do that! I have received alot of great advice and I will heed it for sure. I am so glad that I have joined this forum! The Phillip Morris company is a tobacco company and the WTS owned stocks in that company for about 3 years until they were exposed they then sold them off. I said to the elders that I wouldn't take a job in a tobacco company because my consceince would of bothered me plus I could get DF'd, but why could the WTS own stocks in Phillip Morris? No response, to that. I said if you don't believe me look it up it is public record!

@Black Sheep-HaHa!!! So true! I thought about how disfuctional, sad and low this so called Christian religion is and how people gossip and send elders your way like they are getting more brownie points with god for telling on me! That also brings to mind a Youtube vid I watched recently called kissing Franks Ass, it is so much like the WTS!

@Aguest- Thank you, and I will make it that much harder for them. I too am hoping that they research this info as well. It was kind of sad to watch them because they couldn't even defend thier own faith that they have given everything for!

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Igot2bme

@Lozhasleft- When they came to my door they had these stern looks on thier faces like they were going to school me. I am so glad I had a few brewskis before they showed up! At the end of it all they were more than happy to get the heck out! I hope they took my words to heart.

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Igot2bme

@Scully- I thought about that too, I would totally do that if it would do me some good. I agree with you that they would just take thier law into thier own hands and get rid of me on thier own!

@LV101-That would be so awesome! I feel I gave them way to much ammo to for them to keep me around. But I guess I could mess with them for a little while, I'll have to think about that. I would love to be a pain in the ass to my in laws as much as I can! That would be the only reason why I'd hang around!

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Igot2bme

@Wontleave-I did use that scripture, I said to them that I had no ill will towards anyone in the cong and that I felt that they were being duped by the Org and they were skinned and thrown about like sheep without a shepard, and that the true believers that speak the truth would be persecuted people like me who couldn't stand being fed lies anymore. WOW, you should of seen the looks on thier faces! Of course no response to that either!!!

@Anonymous-You really got to that younger elder! The older elder sounded like he knew you made a break through! Good going! I hope that both of our outcomes are not to tramatic!

@Sizemilk-I live in a rural community, and the elders in our hall are up there in years. I kind of think that they are kind of sheltered from any news that would concern the Org. I am going to print off a news article and present it to the elder when he shows up to pick up my letter!

@Wannabefree- I thought about that as well, I am kind of stuck but I feel that I have to write that DA letter there is no other option. It feels good to tell them about things they had no knowledge of!

@Ziddina-Thank you and I will keep you guys informed to what happens.

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Well I have a choice to make

by Igot2bme in

jw
friends

the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

Igot2bme

The elders came today without any notice and visited with me. They told me that my mother in law said I didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore. I said yes I did say that and then I laid it all out for them why I felt that Jehovah god wasn't with them. My in laws don't like me because I wouldn't keep secrets for them, they are the biggest hypocrites in our congo, plus other things that they did that I posted on other threads so they are really wanting to see me DF'd Or DA'd. I felt kind of sorry for the elders during thier visit, I did most of the talking and they really didn't have anyway to respond to the things I had brought up, except for when I said Jesus died for all of our sins the one elder said that Jesus died for MANY not for all! I was taken aback by that. Also the bible was not cracked open once during this discussion. I brought up the NGO and UN thing they never even heard of it. I told them about the sexual abuse cases that were settled with the Org they claimed that they didn't know anything about that either. I told them how I felt the Org was blood guilty and used the example about new light on organ transplants, and how if J. Rutherford and C.T. Russell would be resurected into the this time they would be DF'd for their beliefs. Also I brought up Beth Sarim and how J. Rutherford lived high on the hog during the depression off of the org. Of course they chimed in how I must be getting my info from apostates I told them I got info from newspaper articles such as the Guardian, and from our own publications. I also pointed out how easy it is to slap the apostate label on anything that goes against the org and make it null and void even if it is truthful. I said that it is a loaded word and is used as propaganda, and they AGREED! I also told them that I know the truth about the so called truth and I feel compelled to tell everyone about it witnesses and others! I brought up how the org had stocks in Phillip Morris and how that was public record, they were not aware of that. They acually listened to most of what I had to say, and not really disagreeing with what I had to say. And after all was said and done they said that they needed me to come to a descision to DA myself, or stay in the Org. An elder will be by on Thursday to pick up my letter. Part of me wants to stay in just to be a pain in the ass to my in laws, but I really can't be a part of this bullshit cult anymore.

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2 Elders steal 6 million dollars

by outoftheorg in

the missoulia montana paper of 12/30/02 carried the following news report.. two jehovahs witness elders, dale a. erickson and darryl k willis pleaded no contest to charges of fraud, amounting to 6 million dollar theft from an aged lady, una anderson.. it is the biggest single theft case in the history of montana, according to the prosecutors.

this is quite a long interesting news release.. it can be found at "missoulian.com" http://www.missoulian.com/display/inn_news/news01.txt.

this theft occured over a seven year period.

Igot2bme

I remember when that had happened to that poor women, and I was told that there was more than the two elders that were involved. There was talk of some elders and other JW's that were a part of this in the Missoula Cong. even a rumor of a women in my hall 50 miles north of Missoula getting a house bought and paid for with those stolen funds. I don't know how much of it was true but it made me really sick!

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