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  Mormonism - a few points

  by Amazing in

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  mormonism is an enigma.

  they extol higher education, then turn right around and insult education by their farms archeology site sponsored by byu.

  just how this religion ever got by as far as they did is beyond me.

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  Susan, he did not -being fair- mention 11pm calls from Missionaries. Have you never had 11pm phone calls from fellow Mormons? Then count yourself lucky. You have not seen peopled rushed into baptism within a very short period of time? Again, count yourself lucky. I think it depends -in part- on the Mission President. Some of them are sensible, others gungho, "get them to commit to baptism as soon as you can and baptise 'e m by the dozen!" types.

  BTW, I'd have to argue with you. I believe that the BOM is nothing but a work of fiction.

  Edited by - Matt_exmo on 18 July 2002 21:26:10
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  LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

  by QUANTUM in

  1. jw
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  please refer to the following.

  http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

  begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

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  Matt_exmo

  If you really want to know the history of Joseph Smith I suggest you might like to buy a copy of "No Man Knows My History" by Fawn Brodie. Get the last edition, it is fully-updated. It is available from www.amazon.com or www.amazon.co.uk

  FARMS are masters of spin. They produce rubbish.
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  Quantum / See ExMormon Board

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay quantum: before we do battle with your so-called 'evidence' which are nothing more then unproven assertions --- it is only fair that people here see the ex-mormon board, and except for the label differences, like borg (jw) vs morg (lds) and things like that ... it is like reading a parallel universe of the ex-jw boards ... and the problems with child molestation (i.e.

  jeff anderson lawsuit against the mormon church in portland, oregon) and the abuse of women all sound like familiar themes ... and clearly give abundant evidence that the same symptoms must suggest the same causes .... check it out at: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  one ex-mormon fellow has even complained how he was inappropriately touched during his ordination ceremony ... by another man who rubbed up against him with an erection.. such experiences do not address your assertions, and are not intended to ... rather, these and many other ex-mormon experiences suggest that even if the bom, d&c or jod were somewhat historical as is the bible, that mormonism is still seriously deficient ... lacking so much that it does not hold up to being a worthwhile group to participate in ... and .... while many ex-jws are quite capable of debating with you ... i have invited ex-mormons to register here and see if they will deal with you ... they are in a far better position to address your claims and assertions and raise strong and credible concerns ... whereas we ex-jws can sit back and watch and see where it goes.

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  Matt_exmo

  Doesn't Quantum use very large

  fonts?

  Why?

  Because he has very little to say.

  His posts are filled up with large fonts.

  It is rather like a rock star stuffing socks down his croch.

  He really, really hopes the audience will think he has gigantic

  wedding tackle.

  But Quantum? Nah! All he fires are blanks.
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  Quantum / See ExMormon Board

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay quantum: before we do battle with your so-called 'evidence' which are nothing more then unproven assertions --- it is only fair that people here see the ex-mormon board, and except for the label differences, like borg (jw) vs morg (lds) and things like that ... it is like reading a parallel universe of the ex-jw boards ... and the problems with child molestation (i.e.

  jeff anderson lawsuit against the mormon church in portland, oregon) and the abuse of women all sound like familiar themes ... and clearly give abundant evidence that the same symptoms must suggest the same causes .... check it out at: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  one ex-mormon fellow has even complained how he was inappropriately touched during his ordination ceremony ... by another man who rubbed up against him with an erection.. such experiences do not address your assertions, and are not intended to ... rather, these and many other ex-mormon experiences suggest that even if the bom, d&c or jod were somewhat historical as is the bible, that mormonism is still seriously deficient ... lacking so much that it does not hold up to being a worthwhile group to participate in ... and .... while many ex-jws are quite capable of debating with you ... i have invited ex-mormons to register here and see if they will deal with you ... they are in a far better position to address your claims and assertions and raise strong and credible concerns ... whereas we ex-jws can sit back and watch and see where it goes.

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  Thanks, I am sure I will! BTW, have you heard? The JW line now is that the National Blood Transfussion Service uses the JW church experts to help them with the work of the National Blood Transfussion Service. Ooh, yeah, right. 'Course they would! ;o))
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  Quantum / See ExMormon Board

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay quantum: before we do battle with your so-called 'evidence' which are nothing more then unproven assertions --- it is only fair that people here see the ex-mormon board, and except for the label differences, like borg (jw) vs morg (lds) and things like that ... it is like reading a parallel universe of the ex-jw boards ... and the problems with child molestation (i.e.

  jeff anderson lawsuit against the mormon church in portland, oregon) and the abuse of women all sound like familiar themes ... and clearly give abundant evidence that the same symptoms must suggest the same causes .... check it out at: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  one ex-mormon fellow has even complained how he was inappropriately touched during his ordination ceremony ... by another man who rubbed up against him with an erection.. such experiences do not address your assertions, and are not intended to ... rather, these and many other ex-mormon experiences suggest that even if the bom, d&c or jod were somewhat historical as is the bible, that mormonism is still seriously deficient ... lacking so much that it does not hold up to being a worthwhile group to participate in ... and .... while many ex-jws are quite capable of debating with you ... i have invited ex-mormons to register here and see if they will deal with you ... they are in a far better position to address your claims and assertions and raise strong and credible concerns ... whereas we ex-jws can sit back and watch and see where it goes.

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  Matt_exmo

  Hi, there! Yeah, I am a Brit. Well, a Brummie, really! I do not know how many Mormons there are in the UK. TOO many. Ten would be too many, to be honest! I have been out of the Morg since 1982, so am not up on the details these days.

  Edited by - Matt_exmo on 11 July 2002 21:51:55
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  Quantum / See ExMormon Board

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay quantum: before we do battle with your so-called 'evidence' which are nothing more then unproven assertions --- it is only fair that people here see the ex-mormon board, and except for the label differences, like borg (jw) vs morg (lds) and things like that ... it is like reading a parallel universe of the ex-jw boards ... and the problems with child molestation (i.e.

  jeff anderson lawsuit against the mormon church in portland, oregon) and the abuse of women all sound like familiar themes ... and clearly give abundant evidence that the same symptoms must suggest the same causes .... check it out at: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  one ex-mormon fellow has even complained how he was inappropriately touched during his ordination ceremony ... by another man who rubbed up against him with an erection.. such experiences do not address your assertions, and are not intended to ... rather, these and many other ex-mormon experiences suggest that even if the bom, d&c or jod were somewhat historical as is the bible, that mormonism is still seriously deficient ... lacking so much that it does not hold up to being a worthwhile group to participate in ... and .... while many ex-jws are quite capable of debating with you ... i have invited ex-mormons to register here and see if they will deal with you ... they are in a far better position to address your claims and assertions and raise strong and credible concerns ... whereas we ex-jws can sit back and watch and see where it goes.

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  Matt_exmo

  Oh, dear. I have waded through -and read some- of Quantum's posts. I fear you are infested by what Scott Adams, the author of Dilbert, describes so well as: "A known idiot." He infests ex-Mormon boards. Ignore him. Eventually he goes away, if you are lucky.
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  Quantum / See ExMormon Board

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay quantum: before we do battle with your so-called 'evidence' which are nothing more then unproven assertions --- it is only fair that people here see the ex-mormon board, and except for the label differences, like borg (jw) vs morg (lds) and things like that ... it is like reading a parallel universe of the ex-jw boards ... and the problems with child molestation (i.e.

  jeff anderson lawsuit against the mormon church in portland, oregon) and the abuse of women all sound like familiar themes ... and clearly give abundant evidence that the same symptoms must suggest the same causes .... check it out at: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  one ex-mormon fellow has even complained how he was inappropriately touched during his ordination ceremony ... by another man who rubbed up against him with an erection.. such experiences do not address your assertions, and are not intended to ... rather, these and many other ex-mormon experiences suggest that even if the bom, d&c or jod were somewhat historical as is the bible, that mormonism is still seriously deficient ... lacking so much that it does not hold up to being a worthwhile group to participate in ... and .... while many ex-jws are quite capable of debating with you ... i have invited ex-mormons to register here and see if they will deal with you ... they are in a far better position to address your claims and assertions and raise strong and credible concerns ... whereas we ex-jws can sit back and watch and see where it goes.

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  Matt_exmo

  PLUS! See what the experts say! Visit the site of IRR at http://www.irr.org/mit/Default.html and see there professional "take" on the Mormon Church.
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  Quantum / See ExMormon Board

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay quantum: before we do battle with your so-called 'evidence' which are nothing more then unproven assertions --- it is only fair that people here see the ex-mormon board, and except for the label differences, like borg (jw) vs morg (lds) and things like that ... it is like reading a parallel universe of the ex-jw boards ... and the problems with child molestation (i.e.

  jeff anderson lawsuit against the mormon church in portland, oregon) and the abuse of women all sound like familiar themes ... and clearly give abundant evidence that the same symptoms must suggest the same causes .... check it out at: http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.

  one ex-mormon fellow has even complained how he was inappropriately touched during his ordination ceremony ... by another man who rubbed up against him with an erection.. such experiences do not address your assertions, and are not intended to ... rather, these and many other ex-mormon experiences suggest that even if the bom, d&c or jod were somewhat historical as is the bible, that mormonism is still seriously deficient ... lacking so much that it does not hold up to being a worthwhile group to participate in ... and .... while many ex-jws are quite capable of debating with you ... i have invited ex-mormons to register here and see if they will deal with you ... they are in a far better position to address your claims and assertions and raise strong and credible concerns ... whereas we ex-jws can sit back and watch and see where it goes.

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  Matt_exmo

  Perhaps you might like to go visit this website? http://www.helpingmormons.org/ListeningLibrary.htm

  There you can hear genuine recordings of real Mormon Temple Ceremonies. Hear the patrons obeying Satan, hear the prayer of Adam being answered by Satan -even though Adam has followed the "proper" way of praying.

  You'll find it very interesting to find out what the Mormons really do believe.

  I do hope Quantum isn't offended. (And yes, that was some British irony, there!)
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  More Blood On GB Hands

  by messenger in

  1. jw
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  http://www.thisistrafford.co.uk/trafford/stretford__urmston/news/stretford__urmston_news1.html

  jehovah's witness died after crash injuries.

  a jehovah's witness whose legs were crushed in a road accident caused when an ice cream man from stretford dropped his cigarettes died after refusing a blood transfusion, a court heard on tuesday.. margaret mccracken, 57, was trapped between her camper van and a parked car that was shunted backwards when it was hit by the ice cream van.. both her legs were smashed and one had to be amputated but mrs mccracken refused a blood transfusion because of her religious beliefs and died two days later.. at manchester crown court the ice cream salesman, himat singh, who was working for his family business despite never holding a driving licence, admitted causing death by dangerous driving and was jailed for two years.. his 48-year-old father, balbir singh, was in the dock with him because he falsely claimed he was driving at the time of the tragedy.. balbir singh was jailed for four months when he pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice.. himat singh was told by judge anthony ensor that bending down to pick up cigarettes while driving was a case of gross criminal negligence.

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  He probably s not foreign. Most likely a British-born Asian.
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  LET THE EVIDENCE BEGIN

  by QUANTUM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please refer to the following.

  http://farms.byu.edu/free/transcripts/index.html.

  begin with daniel peterson's evidences for the book of mormon.

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  Matt_exmo

  Quantum old chap, you are wrong. All of your evidence seems to be TOLs. Tired Old Lies. Do not abuse these good people!

  "They ask for bread, and ye feed them on stones!"

  Shame on you!