Posts by lisaBObeesa

one of the things that keeps me going is thinking about the things my family and i will be able to do once we are all out, together, and free at last.

(and we will be out together, i'm staying positive!).

i soooo look forward to christmas.

lisaBObeesa

The number one thing I could not wait to do when I got out was to just be with people. I felt so alone in JWs.

I wanted to be in a crowd watching 4th of July fireworks, I wanted to be with people in Times Square celebrating New Years, I wanted to be with people at TGIF parties, I wanted to be with people in clubs, I wanted be with people cheering for the home team in a stadium full of fans, I wanted to be in the sea of people in the audience at every concert for every band that came to town...

I wanted to participate! In everything! I wanted to be part of it all.

Looking back, I realize I just wanted to be human, to feel like a human.

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Why JW assemblies NEED to change

by kneehighmiah in

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the assemblies would be get better results and get more people to come and be inspired if they were more encouraging.

instead the assemblies are a giant guilt trip.

don't go to college, don't get a good job, dont buy things even if you can afford them, don't play violent games, don't flirt.

lisaBObeesa

Instead why not talk about the power of faith, how to help others and how to accomplish your goals in life.

Because telling people about the power of faith and how to accomplish their goals does not make them easier to control.

It would actually do the opposite.

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If you wrote book about JW's what title would you give it?

by LogCon in

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many, after leaving or being cast out of 'the society,' have felt so strongly so as to write a book.

some well thought out and good reading.. my questions are the following:.

if you were to write such a book what title would you give it ?.

lisaBObeesa

<<<<---My favorite is already taken. The cover picture is perfect, too.

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Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

by DATA-DOG in

as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

lisaBObeesa

DD:"It contains many errors"
..For example?

Acts 20:28

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Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

by DATA-DOG in

as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

lisaBObeesa

DD:"It contains many errors"
..For example?

Colossians 1:16,17

The RNWT is even more dishonest than the NWT since it even removes the brakets from the word "other" that they inserted into the Bible to change the meaning of these verses make the verses match their beliefs (rather than the other way around...)

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Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

by DATA-DOG in

as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

lisaBObeesa

DD:"It contains many errors"
..For example?

Luke 23:43

There is no excuse for what they did there. They moved the comma to change the Bible make the words of Christ agree with their teachings instead of the other way around.

There is no justification for moving the comma in that verse, plus they do not move the comma in all the other verses that containt the exact same phrase (Truly I say to you,).

This is dishonest translation.

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JW's and suicide: Huffington Post Article

by kneehighmiah in

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the writer of this article commends the work jw's have been doing on suicide prevention.

obviously he has not seen the secret elders tapes.. .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-rivedal/mental-health_b_4788273.html.

lisaBObeesa

I found his email on his website under "contacts"

http://joshuarivedal.com/index.html

More info about the author...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-gospel-according-to-josh-back-in-nyc-a-benefit-for-suicide-prevention

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JW's and suicide: Huffington Post Article

by kneehighmiah in

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the writer of this article commends the work jw's have been doing on suicide prevention.

obviously he has not seen the secret elders tapes.. .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-rivedal/mental-health_b_4788273.html.

lisaBObeesa

Huffington post requires that you connect to facebook to comment. I'm just not willing to do that... I hope someone else here has an account to comment there...

I did find the author's email on his website and sent him this email:

I am writing you regarding your article on the Huffington Post, A Sin at the Intersection of Faith, Religion and Mental Health. I want to inform you, as I am sure many others will, that the choice to praise Jehovah's Witnesses for their work around suicide is a poor one since the Jehovah's Witnesses actually do none of the things you mention in your article that clergy/faith communities should do. In fact, they do most all of the things your article says not to do, plus their practice of extreme shunning (similar to scientology's 'disconnection' -all family and friends treat the shunned person as if they are dead, forever) have pushed many toward suicide, rather than away from it.

It is even more troubling since at this very moment, members of the ex-Jehovah's Witness community are trying to get the word out about the very dangerous way Jehovah's Witnesses handle suicide, prompted most recently by a disturbing leaked Jehovah's Witness training video on how to handle suicide. The video is meant for the 'elders' of the congregation (their clergy, but they don't use that term) and is not meant for the rank and file members.

See the video here: http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/Shepherding_instructional_Suicidal_Widow.avi I am very interested in your take on this video, since you have some training in this area. The Jehovah's Witnesses are working hard to keep this video off the net, so if the link doesn't work, please let me know and I will try to find you another.

Also, just and FYI, the Awake! magazine put out by the Jehovah's Witnesses is not a good source of information about what they believe or how they behave. It is even a bit misleading in that area. The Awake! is mostly just a tool for very early in the recruitment process and a tool for public relations.

Thank you very much for your time and for your work to prevent suicide, ******

Who knows if he will see the email, but I figured it was worth a shot...