Scooby-Doo

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  Some very poor countries aided US after Katrina. Why we should help Japan.

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  some think we should not aid japan.

  here is something my niece posted on facebook about it.

  then there is my response.

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  "Something to consider, Sarah, borders and countries are man made. People are people. We are all in this together. An emergency is an emergency. We are one big family, the human race. If family doesn't take care of family, it spells the end of humanity."

  So very true. I hate this 'us vs. them' mentality that is present all over the world.

  "At this point in time, it's not money they need but manpower (not the strip show)."

  I'm sure the Manpower strippers could help too, if they wanted. They have a knack at making ladies happy in tough times.
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  Let's make a deal

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
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  i'm an atheist, my wife's a jehovah's witness.

  each of us knocks on your door and has something to sell to you.

  it's up to you to choose.

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  If you saw an empty space would you say I don't believe there is a desk there?

  That makes sense. But on the other hand if somebody pointed to an empty space and told me that there was a desk there, i'd have to tell them that i believe there is no desk.

  Only when this discussion comes up does it take on the "belief" aspect.

  I see, thank you for explaining that.
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  Let's make a deal

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
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  i'm an atheist, my wife's a jehovah's witness.

  each of us knocks on your door and has something to sell to you.

  it's up to you to choose.

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  beksbks, How is atheism a lack of belief?

  I mean... you believe that there is no god or creator.

  Nobody can prove or disprove that god exists so you either believe that he/she/it exists, doesn't exist or you aren't sure.

  My dictionary even has the definition of atheism as "The doctrine or belief that there is no God."

  Maybe i'm just not understanding you. Could you clarify what you mean?
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  Nightmares

  by palmtree67 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first of all, i have severe arachnophobia.

  rationally, i know most spiders are harmless, but something takes over my brain and my body when i see one........i totally freak out, i can't help it.

  they are little pieces of death, wrapped in scarey...... .

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  Plamtree, i used to be scared of spiders too. I wouldn't say that i had a phobia but they really freaked me out.

  I can deal with them now, i even have one as a pet.

  You need to realize that in most cases, when a spider sees a human, their first reaction is to run like hell. You're a big person and they're going to be scared of you. They'll usually only bite you if they can't get away from you. (Of course, some spiders are going to be more agressive than others, though.)

  What you need to do is meet up with an arachnophile and hold some of their pet spiders. Maybe there is a bug house in your local area that you could visit? Trust me, exposure therapy can be a great way to get over a fear. If you aren't at the stage where you feel that you can hold one, then just try standing in the same room as them. Each time you visit the little guy (or girl) get a little bit closer.

  Soon you'll see that some spiders can actually be quite cute. Like this guy: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Wolf_eyes_for_guide.jpg/800px- (I didn't post the picture because i'm not sure if you get panic attacks at the sight of them.)

  Good luck!
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  Let's make a deal

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm an atheist, my wife's a jehovah's witness.

  each of us knocks on your door and has something to sell to you.

  it's up to you to choose.

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  I'll take your cousins offer.

  Can't argue with a guaranteed refund.
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  The Watchtower Org will continue to abuse and control people...

  by Scooby-Doo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... unless we become organized as well!.

  that's the key to making the public aware of the abuse that gets swept under the rug, the way family relationships become destroyed because of shunning, the changes in doctrine throughout the years, the methods that they use to control people etc.

  the general public in most cases view the witnesses as nice, harmless weirdos.

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  finallyfree!: Exactly! just look at the Catholic church today. Hell, even the Pope himself has come out and apologised for what has happened to all those little kids.

  Just imagine the higher-ups in the Watchtower Org doing something similar. The people within the Org who have abused or covered up the abuse of children need to take responsibility for what they have done. And it needs to be done publicly.

  Mad Sweeny: Really? all i heard on the news for a few months was coverage about the exclusive brethren's cult-ish behaviour. Kevin Rudd even claimed at one point that they were an extremist cult. The thing is, a lot more people view the brethren as an unhealthy religion that should be avoided. And that's all because of the flood of ex-members coming out.

  PublishingCult: See, i don't believe that protesting at their conventions does any good. The JWs are just going to view you as evil and the onlookers are going to see you as nut-jobs.

  We need to target the very same people that the JWs target. So that they are aware of their true nature and don't get sucked in.

  Perhaps an organization-type group isn't the best way to spread the message. But i do believe that we need to become organized in some capacity and work together.

  I'll give you an example in regards to child abuse within the Watchtower Org. (I know, i'm beating the death out of that issue but i believe that it's something that a lot of people are passionate about and it hit's the nerve, so to speak.)

  Let's say around 50 former Witnesses who were abused (sexually, physically, mentally etc.) as kids all come together. Every single one contacts a TV show like Oprah. Now Oprah does child abuse stories all the time. And who are her main audience? women and MOTHERS! Now you can't tell me that all those mothers aren't going to care about kids being abused. The Oprah show is aired across the entire globe. Imagine the amount of people their message would reach.

  And then another group of ex-witnesses could come together, inspired by the people speaking out. Let's say that they were all disfellowshipped and shunned by family. They could all contact the Dr. Phil show, to make the public aware of the amount of control the Org has over it's members. After all, he has done a show on cults before and the Org ticks every one of his warning signs.

  The movement would spread like wildfire and people all over the country, the world, will be inspired to tell their stories through all forms of media.

  I know a lot of people would be afraid to speak out because of the WT legal team. But think about it... If one person speaks out, they can possibly be sued. If we all speak out, then they won't be able to do a thing.
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  The Watchtower Org will continue to abuse and control people...

  by Scooby-Doo in

  1. jw
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  ... unless we become organized as well!.

  that's the key to making the public aware of the abuse that gets swept under the rug, the way family relationships become destroyed because of shunning, the changes in doctrine throughout the years, the methods that they use to control people etc.

  the general public in most cases view the witnesses as nice, harmless weirdos.

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  Aussie,

  People dont care about the nature of the 'Org' ... they are insignificant in the public eye, a mere 5 minute spot on the evening current affairs show. Hell, people dont even care about genocides in countries they cant pronounce.

  I agree somewhat. But think about the exclusive brethren stories that came out recently. When the media gets a hold of something, they don't let go. With a great number of people coming forward to tell their stories, people are going to take notice.

  Members have to follow the leaders... and we all know how that goes!

  I think that the majority of us wouldn't fall under somebody elses' control after what we've all experienced. If something like this were to ever happen, there should be only one goal, to spread our personal stories/experiences of abuse/control etc.

  There really shouldn't be any other rules.

  I wish it could, i really do. I just cant see it working.

  I know, it's a big dream. But you have to dream big, to achieve great things.

  "Nothing really worth having is easy to get." - Aisha Tyler
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  first true shunning!

  by pbrow in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was at the bank and was at the front counter asking for help and my old jdub elder boss walks in.

  i do a double take and say "hey denny, how you doin?

  " he says nothing and fills out his deposit slip.

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  Scooby-Doo

  I'm sorry you had to deal with that, pbrow.

  That just proves that there are very few true friendships in 'the truth'.

  All you get in a Kingdom Hall is conditional love, and that's not what Jesus is about.
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  The Watchtower Org will continue to abuse and control people...

  by Scooby-Doo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... unless we become organized as well!.

  that's the key to making the public aware of the abuse that gets swept under the rug, the way family relationships become destroyed because of shunning, the changes in doctrine throughout the years, the methods that they use to control people etc.

  the general public in most cases view the witnesses as nice, harmless weirdos.

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  ... unless we become organized as well!

  That's the key to making the public aware of the abuse that gets swept under the rug, the way family relationships become destroyed because of shunning, the changes in doctrine throughout the years, the methods that they use to control people etc.

  The general public in most cases view the Witnesses as nice, harmless weirdos. They have no idea of what the Watchtower Organization is actually like. They need to be made aware of it all. Absolutely everything, and the only way to do that is to have them be told by the victims themselves.

  The Watchtower Organization likes to be in control. They're seen by many here as a major power that can't be stopped. And i can understand why, they grow in numbers day by day. But what i don't think the ex-witnesses, ex-students, victims and shunned family members understand is the amount of power that they themselves have.

  If we were to become organized, we would be an unstoppable force.

  It's great that individuals are doing little things to open the minds of certain Witnesses (the recent 'lost USB' thread comes to mind) but in the grand scheme of things, that's going to have little effect in stopping the Org.

  We need to hit them where it hurts, we need to destroy their public image. What we need to do is protest in large numbers and get the attention of the media. The media is the key to taking them down.We need to target people outiside of the Watchtower Organization, NOT current Jehovah's Witnesses.

  The child abuse victims, shunned family, sexually abused etc. need to contact the media in massive numbers and tell their stories. Speaking out as one voice, for the children and families that are currently under the Org's control.

  If people become aware of the true nature of the Org then they will attract less and less new followers. With their very high turn over rates, it's inevitable that their numbers will greatly decrease. Perhaps eventually, the Org will cease to exist altogether.

  Destroy their public image, destroy their numbers and we would have taken their power from them.

  It would be incredibily difficult to organize something like this. I know that, but i think it would be worth it. We have to work together, become one powerful force and finally put an end to the Watchtower Organization.
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  Sorry Jehovah's Witnesses-You are not exempt from being made fun of...(and no, its not because of satan).

  by Joliette in

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  everybody gets made fun of.

  i dont care what you are, your culture, race, sexuality, or religion (the main point of this post).

  constantly 'ribbed' by my brothers and their friends growing up (i was the oldest and the only daughter).

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  I have heard so many JWs make fun of the Catholics, people who believe the Trinity, Wiccans, powerful women and homosexuals (especially lesbians), just to name a few. They can certainly dish it out, but they can't take it.

  In the very first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, there is a scene where Buffy is invited to a club and is trying to pick out an outfit:

  She opens her closet and picks out a vinyl dominatrix-esque outfit.

  "Hi! I'm an enormous slut!"

  

  She switches outfits and pulls out a frumpy lace/floral dress.

  "Hello. Would you like a copy of the Watchtower?"

  

  She puts them both aside.

  "I used to be so good at this..."