Posts by TimothyT

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My friend's conversation with a JW about me! Lol!

by TimothyT in

one of my old friends from work, who i used to have lots of spiritual conversations with, messaged me on facebook before and told me how he had a call from the jws this morning.

here is our conversation from facebook when he told me what happened:.

my friend: any way funny thing today, some jehovos came to me door and we were having a chat and i told them i didnt agree with their religion saying i was biased because i had a friend who used to be one and was kicked out for being gay and how could they preach like love etc and be so discriminative and then said they would know you mentioned your name and he did know you, and has even been on holiday with you in the past.

TimothyT

One of my old friends from work, who I used to have lots of spiritual conversations with, messaged me on Facebook before and told me how he had a call from the JWs this morning. Here is OUR conversation from Facebook when he told me what happened:

My friend: any way funny thing today, some jehovos came to me door and we were having a chat and i told them i didnt agree with their religion saying i was biased because i had a friend who used to be one and was kicked out for being gay and how could they preach like love etc and be so discriminative and then said they would know you mentioned your name and he did know you, and has even been on holiday with you in the past. i was then telling him how much happier you are since you came out lol it was quite funny!!!!, also hiya. i also said to them that any religion that doesnt accept their DEVOTE members for who they are is a farce lol. he seemd ok we jus came to a impass lol

Me: yeh, awww, how nice of you. well thanks for telling them that im happier. thats the biggest insult to them of all. they won’t believe it. they will envision im upset and depressed

My friend: i made a point of it. i actually said it and he goes , oh well if u think hes happier, i was like no HE IS its a massive diffrence if u could see him now. i said surely its better for tim now than all those years where he was at war with himself in turmoil over "the real him" not being able to show and feeling it was wrong because of his religion

Me: how did he respond?

My friend: actuially a funny response kinda retarded. he said well if tim was struggling he could of aked for help, him meaning pray the gay away type shit i think

Me: which i did and it didnt work…

My friend: went on to say they have to live by the bibles rules he doesnt make them god does nd i jus said interpretation.

Lol. I was so happy when he told me this. More than anything, I love it when the JWs see and hear that im ever so happy now that I am no longer one of them. The scripture about fiery coals comes to mind. I just knew that the JWs would deny that Im happy. Its what they are like isnt it. They cannot comprehend that someone would be happy without the organisation. Lol. How very misguided they are. That comment too... you may THINK he is happy... Lol! I find it laughable that someone can even suggest what another person could be thinking of feeling when they havnt even bothered saying hello to them for 2 years! Hehe.

Tim :)

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List of UK Travelling Overseers in 2013

by soiledumpling in

hi pepeep am attempting to get a current list of uk travelling overseers.

left 4 years ago and have heard rumours of many new ones.

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TimothyT

BroMac... My dad didnt like Dean Whittaker at all. Lol. Dunno why! :)

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CO Disfellowshipped in UK

by konceptual99 in

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so, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.

he has just finished serving the north west london area.

i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.

TimothyT

According to my dad:

A brother in my cong, an elder was going through a JC for something he did, and the CO Colin was still friends with him. The elder started bagging off the brothers in my congregation to the CO and apparntly word got round that the CO was saying things against the other elders in my cong. One of them wrote a letter to the society who stripped Colin of his title, took away his car and his house and left him to rot basicaly. Apparntly he became disgruntled, handed his notice in and he and his wife got divorced. He now lives in Australia and I DO hope he is happy because he was a nice guy.

The elder was disfellowshipped on his JC but has since been reinstated. This all took place in the lovely, peaceful congregation of Deeside, North Wales which I was a part of for all my life. :)

I cannot confirm any of this. Its what my dad tells me. He was an elder at the time in the congregation. :) x

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CO Disfellowshipped in UK

by konceptual99 in

jw
friends

so, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.

he has just finished serving the north west london area.

i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.

TimothyT

Colin Bird was a CO for our circuit about 5 years ago or so. I was led to believe that an elder in my congregation was disfellowshipped and he took Colin down with him. I dont really know any details. My dad does though. :)

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List of UK Travelling Overseers in 2013

by soiledumpling in

hi pepeep am attempting to get a current list of uk travelling overseers.

left 4 years ago and have heard rumours of many new ones.

.

TimothyT

I remember having Roy Renouf and his wife in our house one day. He was well nice fair play to him. He was a DO at that point. The new CO was Don Wilson and then there was nother called Dean Whittaker.

On the subject of CO's, does anyone remember some sort of scandal with a CO called Colin Bird? I believed at one point that an elder in my cong who was disfellowshipped took Colin down with him. Any details?

Tim :)

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Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

by TimothyT in

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it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

TimothyT

Thanks guys and gals. Its just been an amazing year and a half. I feel so liberated. :)

Lets hope everyone else wakes up soon. :)

Hey Knowsnothing. Yes it is. We went for a weekend away in Italy and this was taken in Verona. My pose is a homage to the the Levite singing in the inside cover pics of the Sing Praises To Jehovah songbook. You know the guy eating the big invisible doughnut? :)

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Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

by TimothyT in

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it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

TimothyT

16 months later and still happier than ever!!!

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How do you cope with being shunned?

by TimothyT in

hi guys and gals.. i have not been a jw now for over 16 months and since then i have been ever so happy and free.

ive also used the time to become a better, more knowledgeable and more fulfilled person.

at that time i decided to study counselling skills and become a psychotherapist and it has taught me so much about the way i think and feel.

TimothyT

Hi guys and gals.

I have not been a JW now for over 16 months and since then I have been ever so happy and free. I’ve also used the time to become a better, more knowledgeable and more fulfilled person. At that time I decided to study counselling skills and become a psychotherapist and it has taught me SO MUCH about the way I think and feel. As part of the course, all students must have 10 hours of personal therapy so I am. I’m thoroughly enjoying it but it’s so apparent to me that 99% of the stuff I’m bringing out that bothers me or has affected me in the past is thanks to the organisation. Not a very good witness to the counsellor for a start. She must be thinking that the organisation has serious issues (which we all know it does).

In the last session we spoke of shunning and how it feels. I enjoyed speaking about this as it’s something which I must say Im almost over, although when it happens it still hurts and the loss of old friends sometimes saddens me. I told her how I've coped with it over the past 16 months, namely through my amazing boyfriend, my family, my new friends who love me for me, my work, my college studies and many more things. These things are just a huge part of my life that they overshadow the so called 'friends' i used to know. Having said that, today I was once again shunned by a brother, even though I greeted him, asked him how he was, thanked him and said goodbye. He did not respond to any of those greetings! I felt like I was back on the school playground!

So how do I cope? I remind myself that I’m going to be the better person. I feel this behaviour is so childish and I see it as such. I also took note that the person isn’t to blame but it’s the organisation which has a lot to answer for. I’m also hopeful that one day these 'friends' may call me and want to see me again. I also tend to laugh about it all. I guess that’s my coping strategy. Overall though, I see the whole situation as beneath me - I have become a much stronger and more powerful person since now I’m free to use my head and develop myself. I respect their autonomy even though they dont, and for that I pity them.

This forum has been terrific for me and I have used it a place to rant and express my feelings. So how do you cope? Give me some ideas.

Love Tim xxx

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The Circuit Overseer's Visit on MP3

by TimothyT in

my dad came up to me the other day and handed me the mp3 of the recent visit to my old congregation.

we both decided we would listen to it and discuss it together, despite the fact that neither of us have been to the meeting in over 18 months.. it was nice to hear all those old voices again but it was also a little bit sad.

as regards the talks, they were pretty much the standard i expected them to be.

TimothyT

My dad came up to me the other day and handed me the MP3 of the recent visit to my old congregation. We both decided we would listen to it and discuss it together, despite the fact that neither of us have been to the meeting in over 18 months.

It was nice to hear all those old voices again but it was also a little bit sad. As regards the talks, they were pretty much the standard I expected them to be. They were mostly about irrelevant matters which Christians should not really be concerned about. All the important stuff was given a 10 minute discussion in the service meeting which the brother handled extremely well. All the rest was useless nonsense.

What I did manage to pick out from the recordings is how much this organisation has spiraled out of control. As I haven’t heard a talk now in 18 months, this was the first time that I have listened to their explanations of scriptures since doing my own personal reading of the bible. I must say that I believe they are way off! The talks were very decontextualised, full of cold council which I do not see in the bible, and worst of all, I was shocked with the way the CO simply said 'Basically brothers, we need your money!' I just couldn’t believe it! They went from suggesting donations to asking outright for money and then making you feel guilty about not giving it to them. My goodness! I was just shocked. I knew the organisation had issues and I have not felt it was the truth since leaving, but now when I hear these talks It totally defeats me how all the other brothers just swallow this BS hook, line and sinker when so many of the teachings and principles are so CLEARLY man made and unscriptural.

I have so many old friends trapped in this religion and I fear for some of them very much.

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"Millions Now Living Will Never Die"

by drewcoul in

i understand that the judge's book "millions now living will never die" has undergone a slight of hand change of title to "millions now living may never die.".

where could i find the new title in print in any wt publication?

i do not have a wt library anymore, and would like to show my mom how they have changed the name of the book in their references to it..

TimothyT

I remember picking up on this too. I remember telling the sister next to me and she said I shouldnt read into it. Haha.

w10 2/15 pp. 14-18 para. 8.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010124?q=millions+may+never+die&p=par

Enjoy! :)

Tim x