Posts by freein2004

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2015 DC Invitation

by pixel in

you saw it here first!.

freein2004

This convention should be interesting. Not interesting enough to attend but I can't wait to hear the highlights.

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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step

by poopie in

jw
friends

i'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.

freein2004

Well we all know their doctrines can change over night. So the April 2015 magazine doesn't mean that this particular change is impossible. They are going mainstream. No doubt about that! They are seriously rebranding themselves. An ease in the shunning could get some people back. I doubt anybody in here. Definitely not me.

So though those the assholes AKA, FDS are still spewing out their nonsense and hate about shunning people it doesn't mean there isn't a battle going on behind closed doors about this sick unchristian practice.

So I would not be surprised and I do think eventually it has to happen. But I will believe it when I see it.

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The Secret is out....but nobody cares

by MrTheocratic in

i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

freein2004

Mrtheocratic! Ha Ha! bless your mother! That is too funny.

I think that may be the case with many dubs but many are also still buying the WT crap. I know of a family from my old congregation who lost their father to cancer recently. He was at least 80. But the wife took it so so hard from what I hear. She and her hubby were not supposed to grow old in "this system".

Now my sister is having an extremely hard time dealing with the fact that we will lose our father to cancer shortly. All she talks about is paradise and how it is so close . And now she is researching alternative treatments to help save our father. I feel really bad for her. She must be struggling with doubts. I haven't made it any easier on her either. Recently we got into a heated discussion about the org and how the FDS are full of crap. That is basically what I told her. Deep down I really think she wonders if what I know could be true. During another discussion a few months back she actually told me not to call Bethel headquarters. And that If I want to have any questions answered I can call their elders. I guess she wants the comfort of her little world around her with her faith in the "new system" still in tact. But now my dad dying is really rocking her boat. She said it herself that she never thought she'd have to face losing a parent.

As annoyed and frustrated as I've been in the past when I'd hear her say, "the end is so close" & "it's just around the corner" I cannot help but really feel for her now.

What a sad and wasteful way to spend your life.

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144,000

by freein2004 in

okay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?

huh?

what am i missing?

freein2004

Ha! OneEyedJoe u are so right! I was born in the org. I trusted everything I was told too. I did question some things. But oddly, never their bs explanTion of Revelation.

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144,000

by freein2004 in

okay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?

huh?

what am i missing?

freein2004

Okay so the number is literal but them coming out of Israel is not? Huh? What am I missing? How I ever believed any of their nonsense is mind boggling to me now.

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Anthony Morris has brothers!!!

by elkatire1980 in

i would like to know if anthony morris really has the particle "iii" in his name.

i was looking how to ask about it and i found to ask his brothers.. in the watchtower 15 5/15 you can read in the article "remembering my first love has helped me to endure": .

i must confess, however, that when i first learned the truth, i was not very tactful, especially when i talked to my immediate family.

freein2004

Hey now! I adore Dopey and Goofy. Ha! That was pretty funny though.

seriously this guy thinks he's tactful now. Imagine If the nut job hadn't toned it down at all.

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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

by Designer Stubble in

it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

the lost one i will search for2.

freein2004

I mostly agree with you sir82. But I do think they will eventually ease the shunning. Shunning is a powerful tool but they'll still have the fear of the Big A to keep them in the org. I truly believe they'll eventually go mainstream . And they could still keep people in fear of apostates while easing the shunning.

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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

by Designer Stubble in

it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

the lost one i will search for2.

freein2004

Now I'm wondering if there will be a change. Will this be new light? Will they ease up on their shunning? I think they have to eventually . There is just too much bad press about them now. I really think something has gotta give! Could this be it???? Probably not. But entirely possible. Everything they do is self serving. Could this be a change to make themselves look better?

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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

by Designer Stubble in

it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

the lost one i will search for2.

freein2004

This is definitely written for their current members. More propaganda for the sheep. I was just thinking today about how it seems that all the dubs say lately is "visit jw.org". I'm sure this has already been said but it seems like they are trying to keep their current members from talking to outsiders about their religion.

They come to my door and knock once and leave a tract. It seems nobody has really tried to start a bible discussion in the longest time. One time this man did I assumed was an elder. When I talk to family or call Bethel they constantly try and direct me to jw.org.

I am guessing their main focus now is keeping the members they have.

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JW's caught laughing at Child rapist accusers"

by Newly Enlightened in

jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.

freein2004

I also wondered if this is legit because of the "Body of faith" talk. I've never heard that either. It certainly sounds like the tone of a dub speaker.

This needs to be publicized if it is in fact a true dub talk. It is filled with a lot of inaccuracies about how social services works. Things are exaggerated and false.

While social services does not run a perfect ship they as a whole are not intent on keeping kids away from children. They help parents work their way back to their children. Unfortunately, even sex abusers if "repentant" and work to change are allowed to have their kids back.