Posts by freein2004

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JW's caught laughing at Child rapist accusers"

by Newly Enlightened in

jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.

freein2004

I also wondered if this is legit because of the "Body of faith" talk. I've never heard that either. It certainly sounds like the tone of a dub speaker.

This needs to be publicized if it is in fact a true dub talk. It is filled with a lot of inaccuracies about how social services works. Things are exaggerated and false.

While social services does not run a perfect ship they as a whole are not intent on keeping kids away from children. They help parents work their way back to their children. Unfortunately, even sex abusers if "repentant" and work to change are allowed to have their kids back.

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How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?

by 4thgen in

please pardon if this a repeated topic.

i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.

she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.

freein2004

My family heard about it but didn't see the coverage. They cannot deny it in good conscience so they are just waiting on Jah too. Some of them do believe the reports are exaggerated and possibly some are lying.

My father seems a little upset by the fact that another family member pointed out to him that all the donations will help pay for the lawsuits. But he is dying (cancer) and their is no point in pushing this topic any further with him.

I believe my mother just told another df'ed family member not to let it stumble her. Really! Okie dokie go ahead and put your head back in the sand, mother.

Okay another strange thing. My brother told my parents that the nightline thing was about a guy who left behind a football career for the "truth". Interesting and strange to me because it is not like my brother to lie. I don't know if he googled something and found the wrong program or if he lied so as to not upset my father. If the latter is true then I totally understand why he would lie.

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

freein2004

Thanks for the heads up, Barbara!

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New WTS end date - 2034?

by campaign of hate in

so i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.

where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.

jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.

freein2004

I think they have planted the 2034 date in jdub heads. Perhaps through a public talk. Sometime last year on a Sunday a jdub made a comment on instagram about how "this system" could go on another 20 years. I wondered then if they had heard something at their meeting that day. It was around the 100 year anniversary of 1914. I believe that is actually what they were talking about the anniversary of 1914.

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Watchtower in local newspaper

by lostinthought in

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forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.

if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.

it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..

freein2004

Gone & Forgotten

Yes! Living well and happily is the best revenge!!! And hopefully it will help at least one person wake up.

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Watchtower in local newspaper

by lostinthought in

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friends

forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.

if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.

it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..

freein2004

Well these are nice charitable acts. But what about the rank and file? I know many who are hard pressed for cash and the basic necessities of life at times. Why not start a charity for their own people?

How can they justify using this money for other non dubs when their own members are having hard times and still being asked to foot the WT bill?

Poor little old WT . . . They are damned if they do and damned of they don't by the ex-jw community. LOL!

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Jdub Growth In USA?

by freein2004 in

does anybody have any information on recent growth in the jdub religion?

other than their own reports?

or, can you point me to the right post here?

freein2004

A family member said to me they are growing so much. Their Southern Cali congregation had to split twice already.

I didn't refute this because I really don't know. But I was certain about 5-10 years ago they had to merge with another local congregation that was too small.

I was questioning them about all the kingdom halls that are supposedly needed in the USA. Apparently they think the halls will be used when Jehovah says that's it the work is over. He will ask everyone to meet at the kingdom halls.

So Jehovah is bleeding their wallets dry for kingdom halls because he isn't all powerful enough to keep track of all his faithful while he is in a mad rage wiping all the evildoers off the face of the planet.

I guess this is new light. It used to be the book study home where would take refuge.

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Jdub Growth In USA?

by freein2004 in

does anybody have any information on recent growth in the jdub religion?

other than their own reports?

or, can you point me to the right post here?

freein2004

Does anybody have any information on recent growth in the jdub religion? Other than their own reports? Or, can you point me to the right post here? I searched but only found info from 5 years ago.

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Disfelowshipping / Expelling

by freein2004 in

the insight book volume 1 page 788 uses matthew 5:22 and acts 10:28 as biblical support for dfing and shunning.. thoughts?

hopefully someone upload the insight book page here.

i don't have the means.. i should have said that basically the top paragraph in the insight book is supporting shunning because the israelites shunned the man of the nations and tax collectors?

freein2004

Thanks so much for that information, Mary.

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Disfelowshipping / Expelling

by freein2004 in

the insight book volume 1 page 788 uses matthew 5:22 and acts 10:28 as biblical support for dfing and shunning.. thoughts?

hopefully someone upload the insight book page here.

i don't have the means.. i should have said that basically the top paragraph in the insight book is supporting shunning because the israelites shunned the man of the nations and tax collectors?

freein2004

Those were my observations about the scripture too. I should have quoted them here. Thanks for doing it.

Dubs will say that Jesus account of forgiveness does not apply to disfellowshipped ones. At least my father said that. But the FDS used part of the scripture to support dfing and shunning.

Is there any wt pubs where I can point to this? Where they say or imply Jesus talking about forgiving your brother doesn't apply to dfing? They are certainly trying to use it here in the insight book.