Oh dear. Sounds like the person could use an advocate, social worker, or case manager....and an attorney.
Posts by Anon2
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Watchtower sued for Racketeering in California
by under the radar ina little birdie informed me that a lawsuit against the watchtower bible & tract society, its legal department, and several individuals (perhaps lawyers in the legal department) has been filed in the superior court of the state of california, county of los angeles for, wait for it.... racketeering!.
that's right, folks, you heard it here first.
i have no other information, other than the case was stamped "aug 07 2015" and the docket number appears to be bc590675.
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If you could ask Geoffrey Jackson one question that he had to answer what would it be?
by jwleaks inwhat question would you ask geoffrey jackson, as a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, to answer?
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jw leaks.
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Since the Watchtower bought a luxury property as a translation office on the Gold Coast of Australia, have you any knowledge of what is said to be child sex ring that operates from the Gold Coast that includes some prominent clergymen? It's a two part question.
How do you sleep at night knowing the lives you've destroyed and the people who have died as a result of your decisions?
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Example of how "slick" Vincent Toole is.
by Indian Larry infrom day 5 testimony:.
stewart - with regard to confessional privilege which you mention in various places, but, for example, let's look at your paragraph 29. .
toole - paragraph 29?
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Indian Larry, there were other cases claiming confessional exceptions to reporting too. Johnathon Kendricks trial was one of them. The JW woman in California who had a husband that had thousands of chid pornographic images on his computer and went to the police,the elders knew, can't remember the name or details now, but if you need it, I'll locate it.
"“Maintaining confidentiality” is a fundamental religious precept which Appellants believe is directly derived from Scripture” (defendant and appellant WBTS P46)."
http://aawa.co/blog/how-the-watchtower-justifies-its-crimes/
Edited: Found the name. Here's a link: http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/steven-lindhorst-charged-lewd-act-with-a-child-under-14-years-possession-of-24000-images
Recently, the atty. of the pedo is trying to get him out by claiming the elders shouldn't have reported it because of confidentiality. Judge said they had enough evidence even if they hadn't come forward and so far, has ruled against the pedo.http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2015/07/29/3740965/steven-lindhorst-jehovahs-witness.html
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RC in Australia and Child Abuse
by Nicky Whitehouse injust a thought... i wonder if anyone has brought to their attention the recent jw.org video from lett (with very dubious timing) suggesting that any and all media reports about how the org handles abuse are lies from apostates, and how no one is more protective of abuse victims than the org ...seems to me that that video is very damning evidence of their attempt to silence victims from coming forward with complaints - further victimizing and traumatizing them.i hope they have seen that video - and i hope they bring it up.
i am thoroughly enjoying watching the org squirm.
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Anon2
Wonder if the RC would also be interested in knowing they're being called Gog of Magog.
"Pray for Brother Jackson of the Governing Body!"
In today’s news from Australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, Justice McClellan from the Australian Royal Commission on Child Sex Abuse will officially summon brother Geoffrey Jackson to the stand after all.
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125970319298/pray-for-brother-jackson-of-the-governing-body-in
This is a tough time for our elders. They need your support.
You can can see where the government has a “gotcha” attitude toward the JW hierarchy.
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125404432643/this-is-a-tough-time-for-our-elders-they-need
Under Attack by Gog of Magog!
First Russia bans our website and now Headlines around the world are looking like the one below:
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125203559728/jworg-under-attack-by-gog-of-magog-first-russia
Government Attacks Religion!
Justice McClellan questions the Branch Overseer Terrence O’Brien about the relevance of the Bible in general.
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125973932103/government-attacks-religion-justice-mcclellan -
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Re: “Became So Beloved” Video
by pixel inamid all the talking about the rc, the wt is releasing a new video:.
to all bodies of elders.
re: became so beloved video and event media document type.
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If they really want to show how much they appreciate the beloved, they could move them up in rank to be Mediators like the sacred seven.
When the beloved visit the congregations, they could hear confessions and guarantee they'd mediate the matter....for a few dollars of course.
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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..
by umbertoecho inhello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
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Glad the governing body info was found. Was thinking it was from their 2012 annual "new light" meeting.
Thank you breakfast of champions. You are all so nice!
Orphan Crow, agree totally on bragging about teaching materials. I sent an example of their teaching cartoon that was 1 min. 40 seconds telling the children they have a conscience, they can say no, they can tell their parents, and reassuring them they have Jehovah.
So the child who is probably an expert on guilty conscience, who feels it's their fault in the first place, can disobey the talking back to adults rule and tell the family member or friend "no". They will probably realize it's also ok to also violate the rules about talking about those unmentionable body parts and modesty.
Then the reassurance that "We have Jehovah". Yes, the one who watches all, sees all, hears all, and expects obedience to parents and authority figures and will slay you if you don't follow those rules. Right. That will help.
All the responsibility is put on the child. But, it makes the parents feel better. Now the kids know. Whew. Thanks for the governing body.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu9xH04lGHY
Here's a few more I sent the Commission or Mr. Stewart:
“the legal system may offer little hope of successful prosecution.” (Awake! 1993 10/8 page 9)http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/tony-morris-scapegoats-gay-people-in-bizarre-child-abuse-denial-rant
elder instructions/predator
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-will-decide-who-is-a-predator-new-watchtower-instructions-to-elders-on-child-abuse(Didn't elders at the hearing say that if the law was involved they delayed their JW judicial hearings)
elders – the spiritual leaders of local congregations – to form confidential committees to handle potential criminal matters internally.
“In some cases, the elders will form a judicial committee to handle the alleged wrongdoing that may also constitute a violation of criminal law (e.g., murder, rape, child abuse, fraud, theft, assault),” the directive stipulates. “Generally, the elders should not delay the judicial committee process, but strict confidentiality must be maintained to avoid unnecessary entanglement with secular authorities who may be conducting a criminal investigation of the matter.”
https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-use-1st-amendment-to-hide-child-sex-abuse-claims/
This is the Nov. letter mentioned in the link above. Paragraph 12 deals with subpeona's and tells them not to turn over information. It's at:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1667064-watchtowernov62014.html
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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..
by umbertoecho inhello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
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Thank you very much wifibandit, for the welcome, and for the link to hear it in his words. -
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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..
by umbertoecho inhello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
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Anon2
Petraglyph, here's a 2011 one, which the Commission is aware of. 8)
"We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24 Simplified English Edition
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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..
by umbertoecho inhello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
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Thank you very much girl next door. I'll edit and post them!
Sorry, it doesn't look like I can edit that post. Maybe a time limit. Anyway, the post to Geoffrey Jackson's statment was at http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150815/let-many-islands-rejoice/The statement about Satan behind the governments is at
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102002068#h=11 -
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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..
by umbertoecho inhello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.
it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.
it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.
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Anon2
Don't mean to rudely barge in without introduction, but wanted to let you know I registered, first of all to thank everyone for all the useful information you've offered over time.
Have been a lurker to the point of feeling like a voyeur, but have wanted to share during the hearings in Australia. Have contacted them many times with information I had. Would share now, but not sure of the policy on newbies posting links, so for now, will wait except to state quotes of my latest mailings to either Mr. Stewart or the Commission. Special thanks to the poster here who listed those addresses.
One was a statement from Geoffrey Jackson in the August 2015 Watchtower that seemed to me to contradict the original statement offered to officials. It is:
"Since September 2005, I have had the unexpected privilege of serving as a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. While I can no longer serve as a translator, I thank Jehovah that he allows me to remain involved in supporting the worldwide translation work."
Also included a statement the Commission may be interested in, from the wol version of their official website, a statement that:
"Yes, Satan is the source of the power and authority of human governments. Thus, as the apostle Paul wrote, the true “world rulers” are “wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places,” who control human governments."
If anyone wants the links and can let me know it's ok to post them,then I will. Didn't want to get banned on the first post. 8)
Thank you again everyone!