Wiping tears to see clearly enough to tell you that Cheryl Ann will live forever in your heart and the hearts of those who read this beautiful story. She would be so honored. Thank you for so much for sharing it.
Posts by Anon2
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31A True Story: PORTRAIT OF A GIRL and her dog
by Terry inportrait of a girl and her dog.
(a true story by terry edwin walstrom).
her name was cheryl ann draper and she was about 11 years old the day she begged her daddy, who worked at a gas station, to let her go with him to work.
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We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.
by James Mixon intell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.
by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.
witness.
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Anon2
Cha ching, your children are so fortunate to have a Mama like you. You gave them a healthy diet while making them think it was their idea, and you made me laugh.
Thank you for your compassion. No, I wasn't trying to be mean. She has an unfortunate habit of forcefully stating her beliefs but refusing to hear anyone else's.
Others outside of the religion have told her she is being taken advantage of by her congregation and have told my sister and myself of different money schemes that she is involved in with the congregation and is convinced it's "for Jehovah."
There's a big backstory, but enough said. Guess that knowing nothing would convince her the organization does any wrong, ever, I was hoping to plant a little seed that could slowly grow so she'd open her eyes. But, maybe it's better she doesn't. Just don't know, but do know I appreciate you kindness more than I can say. Thank you. -
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We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.
by James Mixon intell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.
by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.
witness.
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Anon2
Oh wow, Steve2. I didn't mean it to seem that way, but it does, doesn't it? There are reasons that I did it that way with her, but it may have been wrong. Your points are valid and I'll give them consideration. Thank you for your honesty and my apologies to anyone who was offended by it. -
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We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.
by James Mixon intell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.
by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.
witness.
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Anon2
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Leaving the org and marriage possibly ending
by atacrossroads ini was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.
i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.
a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.
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Anon2
Hi atacrossroads. So sorry for what you must be feeling. My husband has been dead for a long time, and neither of us were JW's, so it wasn't an issue between us. Don't want to imagine the pain it would cause to have religion between you and someone you love and intended to spend your life with. Marriage is a wonderful thing and I hope if it's still what you both want, that yours will work and you can each respect the others' choice. I admire your courage and wish you strength Will keep you in my prayers. -
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We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.
by James Mixon intell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.
by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.
witness.
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Anon2
My method depends on the person. My parents are JW's, my sister bowed to the pressure and was baptized, and has regretted it, and them, and loathes any religion since. She's successfully faded and is married to a Catholic. She's a treat. No sugar coating and honest open talk. We discussed the hearings daily.
My dad is dead, and mother is a JW in name only. She doesn't attend but perches next to her speaker call in meeting thing on the phone. I asked her if her Witness friends had been out to bring her magazines and if something was going on because I'd heard some really disturbing things. Gossip isn't something she can pass up, regardless of who or what it's about. I told her and asked her if my elderly aunt had heard about it. She said she doubted it but she wasn't about to ask because she'd report her for apostasy.
Next call to the aunt. Of two elderly aunts, one died, A devout JW who never married, never had children, and stayed single because back in the day, that's what the leaders recommended. She died alone, at home, waiting for 4-6 months for someone to drop off her Watchtower and Awake magazine. In her words to my mom, she said, "I always gave them 20.00 when they brought them, but the last time I hadn't been to the bank so I didn't give them anything. I hope that's not the reason they aren't coming."
So, I called my remaining, devout, pious, totally mind controlled JW aunt who wouldn't think twice about reporting her sister for apostasy. Thankfully, she lives several states away.
She needed more gentle handling. HA. I asked her what in the world was going on in the organization and is she doing ok. She was shocked and wondered why I asked. I asked her if they'd been preaching about persecution or the end being near. She thought and said they had mentioned some things, but why was I asking. I said, "do you think it could be starting? Persecution I mean?" She said, "well, I wouldn't doubt it. Now that I think about it, they had a little talk about it on the jw.org site. What is going on? Do you know anything?" I said, no, not really, but was just concerned. As long as she's ok, I don' want to worry her.
After a bit she was getting a little testy not getting the information she was after, so I told her I was concerned about the horrible things being said about all those poor little kids being molested. That it was mind boggling that any religion could have so many and no one charged or prosecuted and it allegedly went on for years, so I went to the website and am still having trouble figuring things out and getting around the site, but they have all these documents online and there was some Flock book and something about the subscriptions to the magazines and all kinds of things but after I saw that about they really do have subscriptions but they want people to deliver the magazines so they can get a donation and after poor dear, Aunt XXXX waiting for her magazines until she died and suspecting they weren't bringing them because she didn't pay them last time, kind of made me feel sick.There. Like Ralphie in the Christmas story, I blurted it out.
She said, "you don't mean?" Which is southern speak for tell me this isn't true. Are you serious? I told her yup. It was awful. She said, "that flock book you mentioned, it wasn't "Shepherd the Flock..." I said, "YES, that's it, thank you." She said. No. They didn't have that on there did they? I said, yes, with a lot of other things, but after reading about the way to get a subscription and thinking about poor Aunt XXXX I didn't sort through the rest of them.She asked about it but I told her it upset me too much to even relay it and if it's something confidential, it's best we don't discuss it anyway....even though it's not right what they did. (Confidential or not, she'll be looking)
Told her on the way out of the website, I saw a thing where that governing body man that seems nice was going in there Fri. 11 am and it's going broadcast live, so if I'm not too busy, I'll watch it because I'm sure he'll tell them to leave you guys alone and will also make them get those confidential things off there. But it hurts me for Aunt XXXX to know she could have had her magazines come by subscription and wouldn't have missed them the during the last months of her life. But in case I miss it, if she watches, make sure and let me know what he says. I've forgotten so much but remember how they used to say something about we shouldn't fear man and if brought before officials, Jehovah would let them know what to speak, so I bet it will be the Witness of all time.
She started with the, "but I think they'd have said something, and we don't usually go to places like that...." I said, "oh, no need to explain. I just figured you were allowed to see your governing body but no, it doesn't matter. If I miss it, it doesn't matter at all. She said, that's true. She didn't know why they didn't say anything but there surely couldn't be anything wrong with it. So she's going to try to catch it. heh.
(Thanks to all the earlier posts and threads that were able to offer so many ideas)
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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Anon2
Life sometimes returns things to people. Kinda giving back the pain they've dished out. You were just the balancing act that gave them a little interest on the hurt they loaned. If they were hurt, it might make them think about things they've done to hurt others. Win win. Good job for you. If you feel too guilty, know that you made my evening and probably a lot of others too. See, it all balances out. Kudos to you!
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Watchtower sued for Racketeering in California
by under the radar ina little birdie informed me that a lawsuit against the watchtower bible & tract society, its legal department, and several individuals (perhaps lawyers in the legal department) has been filed in the superior court of the state of california, county of los angeles for, wait for it.... racketeering!.
that's right, folks, you heard it here first.
i have no other information, other than the case was stamped "aug 07 2015" and the docket number appears to be bc590675.
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Anon2
Oh dear. Sounds like the person could use an advocate, social worker, or case manager....and an attorney.
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If you could ask Geoffrey Jackson one question that he had to answer what would it be?
by jwleaks inwhat question would you ask geoffrey jackson, as a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, to answer?
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jw leaks.
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Anon2
Since the Watchtower bought a luxury property as a translation office on the Gold Coast of Australia, have you any knowledge of what is said to be child sex ring that operates from the Gold Coast that includes some prominent clergymen? It's a two part question.
How do you sleep at night knowing the lives you've destroyed and the people who have died as a result of your decisions?
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Example of how "slick" Vincent Toole is.
by Indian Larry infrom day 5 testimony:.
stewart - with regard to confessional privilege which you mention in various places, but, for example, let's look at your paragraph 29. .
toole - paragraph 29?
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Anon2
Indian Larry, there were other cases claiming confessional exceptions to reporting too. Johnathon Kendricks trial was one of them. The JW woman in California who had a husband that had thousands of chid pornographic images on his computer and went to the police,the elders knew, can't remember the name or details now, but if you need it, I'll locate it.
"“Maintaining confidentiality” is a fundamental religious precept which Appellants believe is directly derived from Scripture” (defendant and appellant WBTS P46)."
http://aawa.co/blog/how-the-watchtower-justifies-its-crimes/
Edited: Found the name. Here's a link: http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/steven-lindhorst-charged-lewd-act-with-a-child-under-14-years-possession-of-24000-images
Recently, the atty. of the pedo is trying to get him out by claiming the elders shouldn't have reported it because of confidentiality. Judge said they had enough evidence even if they hadn't come forward and so far, has ruled against the pedo.http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2015/07/29/3740965/steven-lindhorst-jehovahs-witness.html