Posts by Anon2

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recently left, need some advice

by loner1995 in

ok. some back story.

i was born into the jw thing.

so was my dad and mom.

Anon2

Your feelings and emotions are probably a lot more common than you know, and easily understood. You can't live your entire life in the atmosphere you were raised, then expect to compensate right away. Give yourself time. Maybe what you're offering is too much information too soon. Casual acquaintances don't usually need much info about your past, but you might want to share more when you get closer to a person. If questioned, maybe a short answer would be better without adding details. Things like, "we were pretty sheltered. Home schooled and parents were religious freaks," said with a smile. "Quite an eye opener not being in that environment any longer." You can tell by their reaction if you think it would be better to wait a while to share more.

Wish I could be some help. Can't really tell you what you want to hear, but if it helps, know that others have felt, and will feel, just like you. I've noticed people don't care much about anything as long as you listen to their story, try to sincerely feel empathy for their frustrations and happiness for their success, and make them feel important. Everyone truly IS important. Some you have to look harder to see it, but it's there.

You'll soon adjust and it'll be worth your wait. In the "world" as opposed to JW's, you can make "real" friends. Not fair weather, follow the rules or we'll shun you people. Best wishes to you and I hope you'll let us know how things are going for you.

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Testimony of Geoffrey Jackson and his minions at the Australian Commission all placed into one single location

by Watchtower-Free in

the testimony of geoffrey jackson and his minions at the australian commission all placed into one single location for easy reference.

http://www.omniadicta.net/jw.html

Anon2

Thank you for the condensed report Watchtower Free. I like that you called Geoffrey by his first name. It limits confusion since there are two Jacksons. Douglas and Geoffrey.

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ATT: WARNING

by EJ257 in

please be aware of everything that is happening around the world at this moment in time.

this goes to anyone, ex-communicated, removed, serving, believer and non.

at this point in my observations i have realized many religions/ideologies know there is some sort "end of time" or a transition into a new order of living in this earth.

Anon2

"even bethel knows it's insanely close"

Was the "you're no longer needed" notice they found slid under their door a clue? Bethel is going through their own tribulation right now. Their Armageddon is rapidly approaching. They'd have to be mental midgets to not figure that "their" end is near.

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The Horror of mom needing blood and almost dying...you dont want this!!!

by Witness 007 in

my mom was unwell for awhile bruises on her body....doc tells us she has a form of lukiemia.

of course "no blood" she is anointed and stubborn as hell.

her platelets (blood fraction 2% of blood volume) are 4 should be 150!!!

Anon2

According to this article, it takes platelets several days to recover from chemo:

http://news.cancerconnect.com/thrombocytopenia-overview/

It may be grasping at straws, but it doesn't look like it would cause any harm:
http://www.thrombocyte.com/low-platelet-count/

And:

http://www.wikihow.com/Raise-Blood-Platelet-Level-Naturally

This is a good thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491980003/does-anyone-have-knowledge-about-follicular-b-cell-lymphoma-blood-transfusions

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The Horror of mom needing blood and almost dying...you dont want this!!!

by Witness 007 in

my mom was unwell for awhile bruises on her body....doc tells us she has a form of lukiemia.

of course "no blood" she is anointed and stubborn as hell.

her platelets (blood fraction 2% of blood volume) are 4 should be 150!!!

Anon2

So sorry for what you're going through. It has to be the hardest thing ever to watch someone you love slowing dying while refusing life saving treatment.

Are you up to date on their policies? The reason I ask is because they change SO often. There was a time they didn't allow organ transplants. Now they do. They didn't allow ANY blood that I know of, but now they allow many, if not most of the parts or fractions of blood.

Found this on a quick search:

"Also referred to as “thrombocytes”, they are specialized blood cells responsible for stopping bleeding. Like the red cell, they have no nucleus. They are the smallest of the blood components, amounting to far less than 1% of blood volume, yet they remain banned. They are used to treat Thrombocytopenia, side effects of chemotherapy or a low platelet count due to lumbar puncture or bone marrow aspiration. The platelet is banned for Jehovah’s Witnesses but like the red and white cell, everything within it are permitted."

http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-approved-blood-transfusions

Would, or could, the Dr. dance to their tune and separate the fractions before giving them to her? You've probably already researched, but if you haven't, I'd dig into the WTS literature and you might find a life saving "loophole".

My heart goes out to you and you'll be in my thoughts. Hoping some research will convince her that she can take some life saving measures.

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I gave the elders some ammo to use

by atacrossroads in

jw
friends

i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

Anon2

Sad thing that you heard from your Dad, your husband, through his Dad, but haven't heard from the elders who want to to talk to you...unless your Dad is an elder. Even if he were/is, how did your husband's Dad find out? Is the entire congregation going to hear about it before you, and isn't there a rule about gossiping and spreading such news?

I'm sorry your inlaws treat you the way they do. Hope that some day you will find people who value you and treat you the way you deserve for the way you are, not what they expect you to be. Though it's a reflection on them, not you, it's still sad that you have to endure such treatment.

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Refused to go to meeting wife broke frying pan on my car....now SHE is inactive 4 years my advice!!!

by Witness 007 in

my wife is a stubborn stubborn woman.

when we got the internet in 1998 i slowly faded due to trying to prove apostates are lairs and scum...only to find they told nothing but "the truth.

" every qoute was checked and re-checked.

Anon2

Yikes. Glad you didn't use horses for transportation.

Thanks guys...the car was my "pioneer" car old as me 22 it took a good beating as these old cars do...i did buy my sister a new fry pan as the handle broke off!!

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Reason of financial problems WTS

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

a non-witness insider told me this week that the wts has financial problems.

that lead to halting down their building plans and lay off the special pioneers and.

bethelites.. the reason of the financial stagnation is beside some bad investments,.

Anon2

I think there are plenty of roles for a non witness insider in an organization that consults, befriends, and betrays. Writers, college professors, health experts, scientists. Easily disposable. Anyone that can be used and cast aside with little collateral damage are fair game to them. All can and have been be misquoted, used and abused. Think Monica Applewhite individuals. The RC hearings aren't the first time they've used her. If it matters, she's Catholic, female, and had access to the ultra secret Flock book. It doesn't matter what religion is attached to a commodity that is inexpensive and intended to be used for a purpose and trashed.

What sort of role would "a non-Witness insider" play within the organization? There can't be too many roles within the organization like that.

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Anon2

Thank you Orphan Crow. Was afraid of that but thought I'd offer it just in case. Real hard to find any current info. Will keep an eye out though.

Thank you for that link, Anon.
The problem with that document is that it is no longer valid.
Organizational bylaws are not that difficult to change. Time consuming but not difficult. Over the course of the past almost100 years, there would have been many changes to those bylaws. The only way we can know for certain what the membership requirements are is to have access to the current WTS bylaws.

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Cooperate Members of the Watchtower Society

by James Jack in

a older sister in miami florida has told me that the special pioneer couple who got their walking papers last week said they are also voting members of the watchtower society.

also his stock share is valued at $800,000!.

i did some research and spoke to some longtime witnesses and found out that there are 500 voting members of the society and they are also called shareholders.. has anyone ever of someone selling his share?.

Anon2

Don't know if this would help, but the "1917 Facts For Shareholders", a PDF document, has the bylaws on page 4 of the document at:

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/1917_Facts_For_Shareholders.pdf