@ Legacy - "I wanted to know if anyone on here was DF'd or know of any who were."
That's a good one... there are THOUSANDS of us on here that are DFed and proud of it!
i wanted to know if anyone on here was df'd or know of any who were...why i ask is because many of the friends i have spoken to, say it's not done, just like that.
it's a process.
i have spoken to a re-instated sister and she said by the time they see you, you are pretty much out.
@ Legacy - "I wanted to know if anyone on here was DF'd or know of any who were."
That's a good one... there are THOUSANDS of us on here that are DFed and proud of it!
the watchtower deceiving statement being: read the bible, the word of god, every day!
the watchtower bible and tract society states, with every fiber of its organization and publishing house, that you should not read the bible (not even everyday), without the holy bible additionally being accompanied by and explained by the watchtower bible and tract societys own publications.. the watchtower society and its witnesses claim that one can not understand the holy bible without the guidance of the watchtower publications.. the statement on the watchtower publishing building in brooklyn is therefore at best deceiving, lacking an under-title stating that one should not read the bible without the watchtowers additive writings.
thus the watchtower publishing house is deceiving (lying to) those who read this statement on their building... the watchtower publishing house is already familiar with explanatory subtitles to what they publicize, among others, the subtitles to the watchtower magazine.. the governing body of the watchtower witnesses (whom abuses g-ds holy name), excluded 4 out of the 7 members of the governing body in 1919, with the double vote by their president rutherford, when the watchtower magazines underscore shifted its wording from preaching the kingdom of jesus christ to preaching jehovahs kingdom.
Welcome TTSSUF, interesting point.
Channel those powerful feelings in positive ways- looking forward to more posts from you!
sun valley jehovahs witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boysby city news service.
posted: 09/12/13, 4:25 pm pdt |.
van nuys >> a man who was an usher at a kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses in sun valley pleaded no contest thursday to sex-related counts involving three boys he met there.. marcelo lozano, 34, of sun valley, pleaded no contest to two counts of continuous sexual abuse and one count of oral copulation of a person under 14.. he is facing 30 years in state prison when he is sentenced oct. 8 by van nuys superior court judge leslie dunn.. lozano is also expected to be ordered to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life following his release from prison.. .
So sick...how many of these are going at one time it seems like more and more.
from the video description:.
a heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former jehovah's witnesses or mormons: their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their grandma or grandpa hates god and is serving satan and will be killed at armageddon.. .
why would such a terrible thing be done?
Thank you so much for sharing Barbara.
I want to thank Daniel L. Hall again because he wrote the section in his book...all I did was read it on camera!
well it took a loooong time to do, but i have typed up all 29,000+ words and made a transcript.
it has been a year and a month actually since i went in and let me them df me, and it feels great to be out of watchtower!!!!.
a picture of the first page is here:.
"I am not a Trinity! And the word does not even apear in any Bible!" Oh wait I flashed back and thought I was card-carrying JW for a moment oops...
BTW I have been getting great feedback on this one and it has drawn several new JW Trolls and apologists to go onto the blog and castigate me for "Making Satan happy" as one of them put it!
YAY, SATAN IS HAPPY BECAUSE OF ME AND MY TRANSCRIPT! Now that's power...
from the video description:.
a heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former jehovah's witnesses or mormons: their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their grandma or grandpa hates god and is serving satan and will be killed at armageddon.. .
why would such a terrible thing be done?
@ Solomon & Apognophos - There very well may be more details to the story. But one thing is for sure: THE ELDERS CAN DF YOU FOR ANYTHING if they want to. This has been commented on before here on JWnet and is a fact. I saw it happen many times during the years I was an elder.
And I am working on a new video right now that has the entire story of a couple that were DFed at the same time and never even found out who accused them or what they were accused of...nothing! It is a shocking example of this very thing in action.
i just wanted to chime in as a loving atheist father, divorced to a jw, and what plays as far as educating our children.. we have shared custody but the kids are mainly with their mom - 11 and 14 respectively.. the problem i face is keeping a balance for my children.
i have turned atheist during our marriage, so my ex didn't have the spiritual support she signed up for anymore.
i can understand it is not easy.
BTTT
Great story from a reasonable man of science.
from the video description:.
a heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former jehovah's witnesses or mormons: their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their grandma or grandpa hates god and is serving satan and will be killed at armageddon.. .
why would such a terrible thing be done?
From the video description:
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A heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons: Their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their Grandma or Grandpa hates God and is serving Satan and will be killed at Armageddon.
Why would such a terrible thing be done? It is because of the Mormon Church and Watchtower Society's harsh shunning policies. Some Jehovah's Witnesses have used this terrible doctrine as a weapon against their own parents and it is a tragedy and a horrible loss for all sides. Once a person is indoctrinated into a cult, they will even turn on their own family members and this is one example of it in action.
The video is based on a book that Daniel L. Hall wrote in 2000 called "The Armageddon Cult: Nothing in Watchtower is right!" It was recently recommended to me by two different friends, and I began an effort to obtain a copy. Unfortunately the only way to get a look at it is by contacting Mr. Hall directly, which I did. The book is out of print and the author is working on ways to get it back in circulation and available for order via Amazon.
Anyway, I have enjoyed many sections of Mr Hall's excellent and thoroughly researched book. I share a few pages with you now, entitled, "The Great Grandmother Tragedy".
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is anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?
if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.
a couple initial impressions:.
This is a fascinating thread and idea- thanks to you guys for working on this.
well it took a loooong time to do, but i have typed up all 29,000+ words and made a transcript.
it has been a year and a month actually since i went in and let me them df me, and it feels great to be out of watchtower!!!!.
a picture of the first page is here:.
@ Faithful Witness - I can't tell you that or I'd violate the forum rules hehe....
But seriously not having to worry that every little thing I do is gonna bring the fires of Armageddon down upon has been nice!