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  God Changing Chosen Peoples

  by eyes_opened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.

  he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.

  jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?

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  ianao:

  If the author of the "Report" wishes to publish it online, then thats his choice, but not mine.

  The fact is, most of it is already on this site. But you have rejected this "Truth".

  Recall the Pharisees, when they tried to trap Christ? Thats what I see when these "arguements" pop up. They used all sorts of things so they would have something against him, you know the story. They ended up finding an excuse, and killing him. But it was just an excuse. Nothing bad... Christ did NOTHING bad.

  All he did was provide the correct interpretation and fulfillment of some scriptures, that the Pharisees had DISTORTED to fit their OWN DESIRES. They didnt like this.

  If you had FAITH, you would have realised the TRUTH on this board.

  All the comments are backed up by scripture. "All scripture is inspired by God and beneficial". The scriptures work, they are not "dodgy" interpretations such as a certain organisations, they are actually scripturally sound. You need "Eyes of faith" to understand. Something, Jehovah has given me. Something I intend to maintain and use to its fullest.

  Sorry ianao, we are not in business.

  http://www.geocities.com/logical_7/index.html
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  God Changing Chosen Peoples

  by eyes_opened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.

  he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.

  jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?

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  logical

  Hi Jr :)

  RHW and everyone else:

  I have a copy of the "Report". I was asked for no money, not even for shipping ($8.40). Its a real eye-opener, I can tell you.

  Jr is right, there are sound scriptural truths on this board. Please, search them out and take note of them. They are here for your benefit.

  Now, play nicely boys and girls!
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  Too much spiritual food? Too much faith?

  by ianao in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.. this is a quote from an earlier conversation in the 1975 thread.. are you saying that the garden was weeded from those who put too much faith in "god's spirit-directed organization"?

  did these people listen to too much of their "food at the proper time"?.

  unfortunately, i never received a response from smartgirlpw, only insults of "boo boos" and truth hurting.. i would like to know if you personally (yes, i am asking for your opinion here, your pearls, or two cents) believe that you should not take very seriously what is stated in the wt publications, and if so, or even if not, please explain.. this was my original question before i lashed out at you for claiming we were having a pitty party and you began to lash out at me, java, pathofthorns, trevor, etc.

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  ianao:

  stratedgy
  intollerant
  mear
  intemmidate
  intemmedation
  dellusion
  incedent
  absoloute
  flase
  counseling

  Man, you need to go back to school!
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  God Changing Chosen Peoples

  by eyes_opened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.

  he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.

  jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?

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  ianao:

  The way I understood Amicus' post was that

  Jehovah's name doesnt matter, and He intended His name not to be known, and for people to focus on Christ, not Him.

  Edited by - logical on 23 January 2001 18:49:29
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  God Changing Chosen Peoples

  by eyes_opened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.

  he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.

  jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?

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  logical

  eyes_opened:

  click: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=619&site=3

  Hope this helps :)
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  God Changing Chosen Peoples

  by eyes_opened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.

  he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.

  jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?

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  Amicus:

  What I find amusing is the emphasis placed on the name "Jehovah". That name was invented in the 5th or 6th century. It wasn't used by the Israelites or the early Christians.

  What is so amusing about the name we have come to know the True God by? YHWH, Yahweh, Jehovah, they all point to the ONE TRUE GOD. I can quote so many scriptures at you, saying He does have a name and wants it to be exhalted.

  The fact is, He IS regognised by Jehovah. That is the name we have come to know him by, Jehovah identifies the TRUE GOD OF ISRAEL!

  Nobody knows how YHWH was pronounced. Maybe this was intentional on YHWH's part?

  See above

  Christians are supposed to focus on Christ. That's the new chain-of-command.

  That is simply called "Creature Worship", "Idolatry", worshipping the creation and not the creator - something CONDEMNED in the Bible. Even Christ himself pointed out that Jehovah, his Father is greater than he is.
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  1914? Wrong! See why.

  by thinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  went to an interesting site the other day concerning 1914 and the wtbts.

  it seems well researched and true.

  hope you'll visit it and comment here.. http://home.online.no/~jansh/wteng/chron.html.

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  Heres something worth pondering.

  Read Daniel 12:4,9.:
  And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant ... And he went on to say: "Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret until the time of [the] end

  According to the WTS, 1914 is the start of the "Time of the end". This date, as you know, was derived from scriptures in the book of Daniel.

  Before 1914.

  When Daniel was STILL a Sealed book

  So, how can any understanding of Daniel pre-1914, according to the WTS be CORRECT? This ONE POINT, is enough to prove the date of 1914 wrong. A drop in the ocean.

  Just a thought
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  Too much spiritual food? Too much faith?

  by ianao in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.. this is a quote from an earlier conversation in the 1975 thread.. are you saying that the garden was weeded from those who put too much faith in "god's spirit-directed organization"?

  did these people listen to too much of their "food at the proper time"?.

  unfortunately, i never received a response from smartgirlpw, only insults of "boo boos" and truth hurting.. i would like to know if you personally (yes, i am asking for your opinion here, your pearls, or two cents) believe that you should not take very seriously what is stated in the wt publications, and if so, or even if not, please explain.. this was my original question before i lashed out at you for claiming we were having a pitty party and you began to lash out at me, java, pathofthorns, trevor, etc.

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  ianao

  it's au revoir :)
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  Fake Plastic Trees

  by Pathofthorns in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this song and band are a favourite .

  fake plastic trees.

  her green plastic watering can.

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  This is "Eye of the Beholder" - also by Metallica - did someone hit a nerve or something? They are spot on!

  Do you see what i see?
  Truth is an offence
  You silence for your confidence

  Do you hear what i hear?
  Doors are slamming shut
  Limit your imagination, keep you where they must

  Do you feel what i feel?
  Bittering distress
  Who decides what you express

  Do you take what i take?
  Endurance is the word
  Moving back instead of forward seems to me absurd

  Doesn't matter what you see?
  Or into it what you read
  You can do it your own way
  If it's done just how i say

  Independence limited
  Freedom of choice
  Choice is mad for you my friend
  Freedom of speech
  Speech is words that they will bend
  Freedom with their exception

  Do you fear what i fear?
  Living properly
  Truths to you are lies to me

  Do you choose what i choose?
  More alternives
  Energy derives from both the plus and negative

  Do you need what i need?
  Boundaries overthrown
  Look inside to each his own

  Do you trust what i trust?
  Me, myself and i
  Penetrate the smoke screen i see through the selfishly

  Doesn't matter what you see
  Or into it what you read
  You can do it your own way
  If it's done just how i say

  Independence limited
  Freedom of choice
  Choice is mad for you my friend
  Freedom of speech
  Speech is words that they will bend
  Freedom with their exception

  Do you know what i know?
  Your money end your wealth
  Your silence just to hear yourself

  Do you want what i want?
  Desire not a thing
  I hunger after independence lengthen freedom's ring

  Doesn't matter what you see
  Or into it what you read
  You can do it your own way
  If it's done just how i say

  Independence limited
  Freedom of choice
  Choice is mad for you my friend
  Freedom of speech
  Speech is words that they will bend
  Freedom with their exception

  Doesn't matter what you see
  Or into it what you read
  You can do it your own way
  If it's done just how i say
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  The guilt factor

  by MoodyBlue in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking to the hubby over the weekend.

  i mentioned the fact that so much of what witnesses do seems to be driven by guilt.

  he said "yes, that's because they have a conscience.

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  Yes, I recall not long ago, at the end of last year, I wasnt feeling too well so I didnt go to the meeting.

  I didn't get "Oh, how are you, feeling any better now" - instead I got "So-and-so's wife is very ill and that family still get to the meetings"

  I felt very bad. But that was then. I wont let them make me feel guilty again.

  BUT, what is so bad about staying home because of illness?