Posts by Knowsnothing

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Questions From Thinkers

by Perry in

how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.

how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.

in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.

Knowsnothing

If Jesus' resurrection was faked, why would twelve intelligent men (Jesus' disciples) have died for what they knew to be a lie?

Belief and intelligence are two different fields. Islamists blow themselves up and are happy to die for Allah.

How can something as small as a brain understand extremely complicated aspects of the universe, even though it is (supposedly) just a bunch of chemical reactions and electrical signals? But at the same time, this brain can’t create another brain like itself, so how can nature, that has no brain, create a brain?

We just haven't gotten there yet. Our ancestors' brains were preoccupied on not getting eaten, sex, and feeding themselves. It's only now with our technological advances that we can even begin to peer into the complicated brain processes.

Why can't this brain even create a simple living twig?

A living twig only appears simple.

Why is the simple cell likened to the complexity of large functioning city by experts?

Because it is not simple. It is only classified as simple in regards to more complex life forms.

Is it absolutely true that "truth is not absolute" or only relatively true that "all things are relative?"

I thought Christians were forbidden to engage in "vain philosophy" and "empty talk", since y'all already know everything?

What do you say about the hundreds of scholarly books that carefully document the veracity and reliability of the Bible?

It is important to note what portions of the Bible are documented as true and reliable. Myth and history tend to intertwine with the ancients, remember?

Have you ever considered the fact that Christianity is the only religion whose leader is said to have risen from the dead?

Elvis never died!

Why don't non-believers refer to Jesus as the late Jesus Christ?

Now you're just being obtuse.

If the authorities stole Jesus' body, why?

If the whole thing is a mythical embellisment of reality, this is a non-sequitur? The rest of the questions are rather similar.

How can one realistically discount the testimony of over 500 witnesses to a living Jesus following His crucifixion (see 1 Corinthians 15:6)?

Probably thousands have reported to see Bigfoot, the Lochness, aliens, etc. Seems like the mind is apt at deceiving or confirming our bias, eh?

Is it wrong to ask such questions? Why?

No, but it would be great if you actually took the time to look at both sides, instead of claiming you have the truth and expecting us to just follow along. I've been just as guilty as you have, just copy pasting things from creationist sites, and then claiming them as my own "thought experiments."

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questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain

by thecrushed in

even before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.

i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.

every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.

Knowsnothing

How do the JW's absolutely know that Adam was created in 4026 BCE?

It's called Biblical Chronology. Count backwards dummy.

Are they sure it wasn't 4025 or 4027?

It is not our date, it is Jehovah's date.

Oh, so you say you can work it out from the dates you know from the Bible. I see. So, if Moses wrote his bit of the Bible, as you say, then how did Moses get those dates? I mean, just who was writing it all down way back in the Garden of Eden even before Eve talked to that snake? What did they write with? What did they write on?

Jehovah's Holy Spirit reminded Moses of what to write, along with oral tradition passed down since Adam. They wrote with a special type of poo, it's remarkable how long and smelly it lasts.

But the faithful and discreet slave, that's not exactly the Governing Body, is it?

The faithful and discreet slave are all the anointed on earth today, whom Jesus Christ named over all his belongings. The Governing Body is merely representative of said group.

So the Governing Body represents the faithful slave? So, how and why are the Giverning Body so sure of the exact dates? Who wrote it down in Eden?

Wait on the Governing Body Jehovah.

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Brother Hero wants to watch Faith in Action with me this Saturday

by garyneal in

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the question i have is, should i even bother?

i am not even sure why he wants to watch this particular video.

ive already seen it with my wife a few days ago and already seen how they leave a lot of details out concerning their teachings of old.

Knowsnothing

Garyneal, if you are prepared before you can go into it, you can question him on some of the logical fallacies/historical errors they make. Depends on what you want to accomplish, if you want to accomplish anything.

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The Tower of Babel - Languages: Isn't this story unhinged?

by james_woods in

besides the obvious fact that it is historically ridiculous - can anybody make any sense out of this story?.

god was somehow afraid that man was developing too much technology?

just because they were building a tower?.

Knowsnothing

The story has nothing to do with hindering the humans, it has to do with hindering the Serpent who has a pretty potent plan for enslave God's people.

And he does it in the most bizarre and non-sensical of ways, he confuses them! Either way you look at it Sab, if you count all the religions that exist today that are not Judeo-Christian based, then according to your logic, all those people have been enslaved by Satan anyways.

Religious rhetoric is fun. It's like arguing with your friends who's a better super-hero.

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How many 144000 left?

by FinchAndWeston in

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anyone know the latest number?

just curious.. .

Knowsnothing

The 144,000 is supposed to have been surpased long ago. This is one of the things Ray Franz argued about. There is a WT quote that 40,000 christians were martyred in a single event by the Romans. If that isn't enough to wake you up to this scam, I don't know what is.

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Another building sold for $ 6.6M

by TJ Curioso in

see here:.

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/04/23/final-jehovahs-witnesses-property-sells-for-6-6m-to-be-used-for-luxury-rentals/.

Knowsnothing

I think the problem with these buildings are that they are cash-pits. They require maintenance, upkeep. Even with volunteer work, supplies for maintenance and utilities still have to be paid. Better to liquidate than to continue pouring money in on something with diminishing returns.

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Global Warming Alarmist Admits...

by metatron in

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134092/gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-alarmist-climate-change.html#ixzz1sujog1zt.

the trend of global warming is science.

hysteria isn't.

Knowsnothing

The most important piece of info, IMO, is how much will sea levels rise in the foreseeable future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise

No one will deny the melting ice sheets.

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I need nothing else

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

i just want to be a true christian..i love god and jesus christ....all i simply want is to be a follower of christ...a genuine one...i don't want to read matthew 23 and know that it aptly fits my situation...i want to feel refreshed under the love of my father...i don't want to fake anymore...i shouldn't even have felt the need to anyway.... i don't know what to do....i'm tired and all i want to do is serve the almighty god...i don't want to have doubts because that alone makes me know that this isn't what god wants...i just want to truthfully be a follower of jesus...a true one.

gosh....i feel as though my life has no direction...all i want to do is follow christ the right way.... i'm sorry for rambling on....

Knowsnothing

MsGrowingGirl, now is the time to find what you like, what you want to do. Everything upto this point has been screened for you. Avoid higher education, pioneer, everyone not JW is to be avoided, study our publications, prepare for meetings, prepare for preaching. The list goes on and on of what they had programmed all of us to do.

Like all have said here, take a breather.

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Definitions for JW words

by socstu in

does the watchtower have some sort of dictionary for people to consult for words they use such as publisher, ministry, pioneer.. just wondering as i don't wanna just say what my version of those words mean if they aren't exactly true..

Knowsnothing

Generation is a good word to define.

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The Tower of Babel - Languages: Isn't this story unhinged?

by james_woods in

besides the obvious fact that it is historically ridiculous - can anybody make any sense out of this story?.

god was somehow afraid that man was developing too much technology?

just because they were building a tower?.

Knowsnothing

First, I think anybody with any reason can see that this is not how the various human languages developed. For one thing, some of the most common languages on earth today (English being a prime example) are far too modern to have come from some Babel myth.

Thank you for bringing this up. Languages that exist today evolved. There is no supernatural source required. It is well documented.

Indo-European Languages.

But Second - my real point was beyond that. The point was that there is simply NO LOGICAL REASON for god to have done this to the tower builders. It actually makes god look childish and mean - and then, beyond that, it DID NOT WORK. Technology, including pyramid building etc. TOOK PLACE ANYWAY even with different languages, and apparantly god made no further efforts to stop it.

Or, as has been said by many on here already, we've already been to the Moon. Outlaw said something funny about it a while ago, I just don't remember exactly what it was.

I think it was that the higher you move up floors in Bethel, the more languages are spoken. 1st floor you start off with English. By the time you've reached the 20th floor, no one understands each other anymore.