Lightning was not supernatural because it wasn't explained. We may have perceived it as such, but now we know better.
Knowsnothing
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Can i defend my Faith?
by mrbunyrabit inso i thought ill check to see how "strong" the things are i believe in.
im still hooked to allot of the wts's teachings, and i still believe in allot of them , even thought i have enough questions of my own to start my own bible school.. so what would you ask me as a "witness" now, so i can try and defend my faith and by doing so, that i might learn something about myself, and what i believe in..
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knowsnothing.. That question actualy made me think..
well lets say it was real - since in my head the flood really happened. didnt Noa preach to everyone, and no one listened?
Mrbuny, besides the bible, would you say you have confirmation in the real world that the flood happened?
I'll provide you with a line of reasoning that refutes the flood, especially the dates accepted for the flood from WT and another Christian apologist.
This involves tree-ring dating. When you count the rings of a tree, you can accurately date the tree. It has some drawbacks at times, but is mostly a sound discipline.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28tree...
The tree, which was at least 4862 years old and possibly more than 5000 years, was cut down in 1964 by a graduate student and United States Forest Service personnel for research purposes
The year 1964 - 4862 years = 2898 BCE
The two dates I've seen so far are Masse 2807 B.C. and WT 2370 BCE.
Masse is pretty close, but this blows away the WT date.
And about the muslems, how do you know that God wants to destroy them?
This is not about JW's alone. Christianity's claims to being the only means for salvation also apply here. I'll give you bible text and all.
1 John 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Muslims deny Jesus as the Son of God. By "devaluing" him as a mere prophet and stripping him of his divinity, according to Christianity and JW's too, they cannot reach salvation.
In the coming Armageddon, Jehovah is just itching to kill them (if you believe the JW interpretation). I ask, what exactly did these people do wrong except get brought up in that religion? Can you blame someone for believing something they were taught since little?
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
Well Sab, you got me with the Pheonix Lights.
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
Stars are real and that's what Greek Mythology is based on.
Humans are real, and that is what comic book heroes are based on.
I understand if you advocate symbolism for religion, but forget the factual my friend. Mutually exclusive.
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
This is the essence of religion.
Zeus, Odin, YWHW all laugh in our faces.
Who knew gods played hide and go seek too?
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Can i defend my Faith?
by mrbunyrabit inso i thought ill check to see how "strong" the things are i believe in.
im still hooked to allot of the wts's teachings, and i still believe in allot of them , even thought i have enough questions of my own to start my own bible school.. so what would you ask me as a "witness" now, so i can try and defend my faith and by doing so, that i might learn something about myself, and what i believe in..
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Knowsnothing
Mrbunyrabit, why is God itching to destroy 1.5 billion Muslims?
Do you hold the Genesis accounts of creation and the flood to have actually happened?
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
What if they passed all your tests? The fairy example was to point out that there are human experiences that are confirmed by eye witnesses at the time of the experience. Even within the scientific method such a fact has scientific weight as well as in the courtroom. When two people say they saw the same thing, such as a murder, questioners can accurately determine if they are lying or not based on the science of psychology and other factors. More than one person is greater than one person.
That is for the scope of human reality, Sab. You are entering the unproven supernatural. Thousands have claimed to see aliens, and there is yet to be proof. Don't let numbers fool you.
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
So how is it you believe the mind can't discover God for real? Is it because you have not learned to trust your own thoughts?
I think what you are saying is that you can make God be whatever you wish. He either is, and nothing I think about him would change him, or he doesn't and I am just wanting an imaginary friend that will pat my back when I need one.
How is defering your thoughts over to a non-existent being any different from solo meditation, reflection, etc.?
Bump N.drew.
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
So how is it you believe the mind can't discover God for real? Is it because you have not learned to trust your own thoughts?
I think what you are saying is that you can make God be whatever you wish. He either is, and nothing I think about him would change him, or he doesn't and I am just wanting an imaginary friend that will pat my back when I need one.
How is defering your thoughts over to a non-existent being any different from solo meditation, reflection, etc.?
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If you don't know what's wrong it can't be fixed
by N.drew inthat is what i heard last night at my yoga class.
she said for something to be fixed first it must become known what needs fixing.
it is true for the physical, but also for the spiritual i believe.
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Knowsnothing
Many methods. First of all prayer. Meditation. Common sense. Intuition. Experience of course. Maybe many more.
And all of these are subjective. Yay!