Sab, are you suggesting the narrative of Eden is merely symbolic for the serpent, the Devil, but literal for God? How do you, oh wise one, know how to differentiate? Or do you just play "pin the tail on the donkey" theology?
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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....
by Unlearn inmy undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.
he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.
i thought we were free?'.
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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....
by Unlearn inmy undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.
he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.
i thought we were free?'.
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(If you eat, you will die... consequence, not punishment)
Not quite. There was no point in eating, unless it garnered some benefit. God "adorned" the tree, made it provocative. God made it provocative, but then put a warning up.
Go on, tell your son specifically not to draw on the wall with a crayon, and see what happens. Worse, if there is an older sibling doing it, watch how the younger one is tempted even more.
Maybe we need to learn things, rather than just having everything downloaded, so to speak. Just a thought.
Sure, learn first hand about a snake bite.
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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....
by Unlearn inmy undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.
he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.
i thought we were free?'.
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They could not do this without dying.
? Pain let's you know if something is bad. In fact, we are built to understand pain (at least most of us, sorry psychopaths).
Touch is the one sense we could not live without, we would die without it, and understanding pain precisely prevents us from continuing that harmful course.
Knowing of bad before you are ready to know not to choose it... well, that might well lead into you choosing it, or thinking that the consequences
might work to your favor, instead of your harm.
God essentially created two adults with the minds of children. There is something about that that just doesn't seem right.
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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....
by Unlearn inmy undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.
he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.
i thought we were free?'.
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Tec, don't you think it would serve you well to know of bad? I'll give you an example. As a child, you might not be aware that walking too close to a cliff is potentially dangerous. It is a service to you to know that such an action is bad.
As for good, well it would be great if we knew that before hand too, so that we don't fall into what is bad, you see?
Their innocence aside, such a knowledge seems necessary, and we have a need for that as well, otherwise we are doomed to repeat the failures of our ancestors.
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It may be Cthulu's influence on me...
TBH, it looks more like Medusa's locks.
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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....
by Unlearn inmy undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.
he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.
i thought we were free?'.
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Just for the sake of argument, tec, why didn't Adam and Eve deserve the knowledge from the Tree of Knowledge?
Why was knowledge a bad thing, and why was a test even put to begin with? What boggles me more is why the state of being naked is wrong to begin with...
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For those that enjoy a good debate. Please remember to separate people from their ideas; remember their humanity.
by JonathanH inthe anonymity of the internet is both a blessing a curse for the information age, especially when it comes to debate.
when a screen is put over the person, all that you are left with are ideas in a pure form; written word that constitutes a set of ideas, reasons and thoughts.
anyone can sit and analyze and form a response at their leisure.
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Thanks for this Johathan, it's a keeper!
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Knowsnothing
Avatar, you are a hoot!
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The "30 Other Lands" in the Worldwide Report - revealed!
by cedars ini've just uploaded the third article in my four-part "under the microscope" series - looking at the society's claims to be god's sole channel with mankind.
a link is below:.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/under-the-microscope-the-watch-tower-societys-claims-to-divine-direction-part-3.
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Knowsnothing
I've always thought about the natives in, say, the Amazon. The ones that don't want any outside contact for fear of disease. I wonder what Jehovah plans to do with those heathens?
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Not necessarily. If prophecy were not vague, and absolutely came true, that would certainly be a sign.