Inisc, I feel you. Reasoning is sometimes impossible. They simply adhere to what they are told.
A bit off-topic, what method would you choose if given the option? Bloodless or transfuse? I'd go bloodless, unless at emergency.
the wts ban on the transfusion of whole blood or primary components is established on a number of "principles" which when taken in their entirety give rise to the doctrine.. one important one is the refusal to distinguish between the consumption of blood by eating .
and the consumption of blood by surgically implanting it (transfusion).
we've all heard the "alcohol" analogy.
Inisc, I feel you. Reasoning is sometimes impossible. They simply adhere to what they are told.
A bit off-topic, what method would you choose if given the option? Bloodless or transfuse? I'd go bloodless, unless at emergency.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
So, how you "know" and how you "prove" are two entirely different things? Who would've thought?
please let me know the age of the youngest child getting baptised.. i knew of a girl of 11 years.. .
Baptised @ 10. Biggest mistake ever.
lets's go!!.
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suffocating.
Obligation.
the latin fathers of the church has never described jesus carrying a "patibulum".
indeed, the early christians to represent jesus carrying the "crux", not the "patibulum".
it's a fact.
bsmart, all I remember about that is that on a stake, suffucation is induced much quicker.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
The former. Basically as close as you can get to make sense, a logical god if you will. I'd say along the lines of Einstein's god.
so after 18 years (since the age of 5) i have converted from the jws to protastant christianity.
i have been biblically shown what i believe to be truths about the trinity, hell, and heaven (ideas that i debated against classical christians for many years) since i left the witnesses.
i read a lot of things on this site (as well as others) that really confuses me.
Hey bushido, I think it was precisely by seeking that I realised Bible God doesn't make any sense.
Think on this one text, Acts 10:24, God is not partial.
Compare that to the reality we face. If God wasn't partial, he wouldn't allow thousands of denominations to exist, let alone all the other non-xtian religions.
It is estimated a third of the world pop is xtian. We r left to assume god kills off the rest. You don't see a problem with that? And then, what if u got the wrong demom. down?
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
Hey SBC, I agree with what you're saying about god. What does it for me is parasites and predation.
However, if god existed and there was definitive proof, then I would just have to admit it, even if I didn't particularly like the answer.
Also, since we are throwing speculative theories out the, which can't be proven, god is just as good a theory, IMO.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
Secondly, if the claim is being made as a rule that complex things are obviously designed by something more complex than themselves, then a complex designer must also have been designed by something more complex as well. You can't play the teleological argument card for a watch and the universe but then pick it up off the table for your god. That would be a double standard.
Hey SBC, just for the sake of argument, can there ever be exceptions to the rule? We use this rule to determine that complex things have a complex designer, but what if the complex designer is self-contained?
In other words, we arrive at design due to complexity because things in the universe had a start. If the universe had always been, there would be no need for this argument.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
EntirelyYWHW, only ~3million more threads to go and 100 of millions of websites on which to ID yourself.