my wife was playing the "stay loyal" convention that she taped the other day and i noticed the brother said something that wasn't in the outline.
during one of the talks friday on shunning he said "can you imagine if apostates were allowed to stay in the congregations?
the congregations would be a garbage heap instead of the spiritual paradise they are now.
I was a secret apostate in my old congregation, back in the day. There was a whole "ring" of us. And by apostates, I mean a group of us, who as JW's didn't swallow all the b.s. hook, line and sinker and were willing to discuss it among ourselves. I left the state and the JW's years later but heard from my recently df'd brother that most of them are still in.
There is dissent in the congregations. If it was there in the late 90's, I can only imagine what it is now.
in today's wt study it makes the point that just glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and can lead to sex!.
so are jw's now to wear blinkers?.
also jw's are told to go and confess to the elders if they have any immoral thoughts?!!.
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
He is right - if he wants to stay in, that's his business (he did make it your business, however, when HE approached you about coming back). Secondly, will he graciously and without a moments hesitation extend the same courtesy of leaving alone to a Catholic, atheist, pagan, protestant the next time he knocks on their door UNINVITED?
Third, if he has children, will they be completely free to follow the or own spiritual path w/out any interference? Not to mention, will they have the choice of not being placed in harm's way via a covered up pedophile or not being given blood in an emergency?
lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.
i am a second-generation jw.
i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.
this is something i was thinking about.
as we are very well aware gj told a lot of untruths.
is he likely to be prosecuted in australia for committing perjury by directly lying to the rc?.
Oh my, it is a very serious offense: http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/legalinformation/thejusticesystem/Offences/Pages/Perjury.aspx
this is something i was thinking about.
as we are very well aware gj told a lot of untruths.
is he likely to be prosecuted in australia for committing perjury by directly lying to the rc?.
.... inspire jwfairytale to cover the royal commission.
.... inspire jwfairytale to cover the royal commission.
okay, i don't even know where to start.
i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.
not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.
Are you in the US? I ask so that I can direct you to some immediate help for your thoughts of suicide. Maybe you're past that now but I'm very concerned for you that it might crop up again if the pressure and shunning begin. Please be well. Know that you are worthy, loved and lovable.
You are worthy of Love and care.
