consider some of the other twisted things used to mislead gods people today.
on occasion opposers will question the various teachings that jehovahs people hold in common.
often this becomes a debate about words, just as it was in the first century.
Nice Atlantis -- thanks for the actual image!
And thank you all for the comments. I find these things disturbing -- just amazing. Also, in that same paragraph, it looks to me that their message is -- One shouldn’t question JW teachings and one shouldn’t just read the Bible.
It appears, mind-control is the glue that binds.
On occasion opposers will question the various teachings that Jehovah’s people hold in common .
….They will declare that all one needs to do is to read the Bible.
consider some of the other twisted things used to mislead gods people today.
on occasion opposers will question the various teachings that jehovahs people hold in common.
often this becomes a debate about words, just as it was in the first century.
Disturbing.
That was from the 3/1 1983 issue.
consider some of the other twisted things used to mislead gods people today.
on occasion opposers will question the various teachings that jehovahs people hold in common.
often this becomes a debate about words, just as it was in the first century.
*** w833/1p.25par.16WhatIsOurPositionTowardOpposersoftheTruth?***
Consider some of the other “twisted things” used to mislead God’s people today. On occasion opposers will question the various teachings that Jehovah’s people hold in common. Often this becomes a debate about words, just as it was in the first century. (1 Timothy 6:3, 4 ) They may also question the need for an organization to direct the minds of God’s people . Their view is, God’s spirit can direct individuals without some central, organized body of men giving direction. They will declare that all one needs to do is to read the Bible. But Christendom has been reading the Bible for centuries. And look at the indistinct trumpet call coming from Christendom today! See the confusion and misunderstanding as to the true message contained in God’s Word! What a contrast this is to the foretold peace and unity among true Christians who not only read the Bible but search out and zealously apply its teachings!—Ephesians 4:3-6.
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i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
Thank you ABibleStudent. Good point. I'm going to wait to send Steve's book.
Anybody know anything about that WTS DVD on the blood issue?
i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
The DVD about the blood issue that the WTS made, is it a fairly comphrehensive representation of their view?
i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
Thank you.
@its me -- hearing accounts of others' good experiences with the surgery does help ease my mind some...I just have a tendency to worry. It also eases my mind that she now seems willing to look at these issues. I don't think she has met with a surgeon yet, but I'm not certain.
She is also considering gastric bypass surgery.
I just am thankful she says she will read Crisis of Conscience. I'm also considering mailing her my copy of Steven Hassan's Releasing the Bonds. Good idea or is that too much info for her to examine and digest at once? I want to be sensitive, but...I feel a sense of urgency to provide her with the resources/material I have.
Thoughts?
i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
For anyone interested, this is the link to that video:
i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
Thanks guys, I do appreciate.
It's not the norm that scares me; it's the potential that there can be complications that worries me. If there's any potential for complications, then it's a real possibility...probably it will be fine, but it's the potential that really scares me. I wouldn't worry so much if blood transfusions weren't an issue.
i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
Thank you all. Cofty, I will check out that ajwrb.org site and send my friend a link, thanks! Hotspur, I recentyl had watched a video (youtube) that was on freeminds, and it was a healthcare professional lecturing about this blood issue. She spoke of a case where a gallbladder was removed via laproscopy (jw patient), and the surgeon had nicked a blood vessel that resulted in serious blood loss. I don't doubt it is a real risk. Thanks for the info.
i have a friend who has been a jw for a couple years (baptized).
she might have to undergo gallbladder surgery.
i'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known.
I have a friend who has been a JW for a couple years (baptized). She might have to undergo gallbladder surgery. I'm worried for her (about the blood issues)and have made that known. I pointed her to a couple of articles on jwfacts and freeminds. She says she is open to examining this issue (and others). (I'm sending her my copy of Crisis of Conscience and warned her not to let others know she will be reading apostate material (she laughed and said she wouldn't get df'd for that)...so I pleaded that she not tell others for my own peace of mind then.)
Anyway, she says she doesn't understand the intracacies surrounding the blood issue, and she wants to look at that more. She says she ordered the WTS' DVD on the blood issue. I don't know how convincing that material is, but she seems open to looking at other view points as well before she makes a decision. She is a single mom and is rightfully concerned about complications.
I've already given her and highlighted areas of inconsitencies I discovered within the WTS' position (like vaccines, organ transplants, blood fractions), and she says she wants to look at that history and review how those conclusions were made. She concluded by saying she still believes their basic teachings are true. I completely respect her.
I'm so thankful she is willing to discuss this with me prior to making a decision...I'm so scared for her. I care a lot!
Please give advice...please.
