If you had heard of a major disaster and knew your family was in the area, would you feel more concerned about your family , or the population at large? Jws feel close to people in their religion , so they would focus on them, this doesn’t mean they don’t care about others (although I doubt many would contribute to charitable efforts to help the wider population)
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Narrow mindedness annoying
by Lost in the fog innone of the brothers and sisters in indonesia were hurt or lost in the recent disaster, according to one of the friends who added "we were all praying for them as soon as we heard it on the news, as you do.
and what about the rest of the population?
i know its nothing new in their attitude to the world outside in general, but it makes me so angry!
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Florida investigating catholic priests, maybe JW victims can join in?
by Bad_Wolf insaw florida is doing special investigation into sex abuse by catholic priests.
i'm sure if some jw's join in they'll add that as well.
https://www.tbo.com/news/florida/florida-investigating-allegations-of-sexual-abuse-by-priests-ap_floridac0e8e01931724afa84838a7fb31b4075.
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@smuddy3 I may be wrong, but I think there are only about 475,000 priests and deacons in the Catholic Church. I would imagine 20-30% of congregations are appointed people, so that’s about 2.25m appointed people, far higher than the Catholic Church. So you could argue you would expect far more , not less amongst abuse cases amongst jws
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Adding insult to injury when the WT kicks out a congregation from their hall
by nowwhat? innot only does the organization confiscate the hall the congregation owns.
but then the former congregants are told to continue to pay for utilities and they are still responsible for upkeep and maintenance.
so they still have to cut the grass etc.
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kramer
Members of local congregations make donations or gifts to their local congregation which is convened by the charitable organisation, the hall is generally owned by a trust who allow use of the hall at no cost.
So, again, why would a volunteer for a charity who makes a donation to a charity think they have part ownership of a building?
4 days agoBecause the local congregations have always paid for their own buildings. Whether they had the cash or got a loan from the society that they paid off themselves. Plus any remodeling along the way. What kind of question is that anyway?! Everyone knows that
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Not viewed as a JW if not reported for 6 months?
by kramer inhi, i seem to remember that the society have said that you are not viewed as a witness if you have not reported for 6 months.. does this ring any bells?
someone i know has been called for a judicial, even though she has said she doesn’t believe and is not not attending meetings and hasn’t for 6 months.what she did was 12 months ago when she was a witness.. she is not sure whether she should turn up or not, as turning up shows she thinks she answers to elders still.
but also doesn’t want to be automatically disfellowshipped which may happen if she doesn’t turn up.. if there is an article to quote saying someone inactive isn’t seen as a witness, this would be helpful.. any thoughts?.
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kramer
Does anyone have experience of legal threats working in the UK? My gut feel is that there is less fear of litigation here.
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Adding insult to injury when the WT kicks out a congregation from their hall
by nowwhat? innot only does the organization confiscate the hall the congregation owns.
but then the former congregants are told to continue to pay for utilities and they are still responsible for upkeep and maintenance.
so they still have to cut the grass etc.
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kramer
How do you mean, they owned the congregation? In what sense did people who attended meetings own the building?
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Not viewed as a JW if not reported for 6 months?
by kramer inhi, i seem to remember that the society have said that you are not viewed as a witness if you have not reported for 6 months.. does this ring any bells?
someone i know has been called for a judicial, even though she has said she doesn’t believe and is not not attending meetings and hasn’t for 6 months.what she did was 12 months ago when she was a witness.. she is not sure whether she should turn up or not, as turning up shows she thinks she answers to elders still.
but also doesn’t want to be automatically disfellowshipped which may happen if she doesn’t turn up.. if there is an article to quote saying someone inactive isn’t seen as a witness, this would be helpful.. any thoughts?.
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kramer
Thanks for your input all, it seems that she will be viewed as a JW - albeit an inactive one, and either attend and play the game, or not attend and get disfellowshipped, or try the legal card for harassment.
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Not viewed as a JW if not reported for 6 months?
by kramer inhi, i seem to remember that the society have said that you are not viewed as a witness if you have not reported for 6 months.. does this ring any bells?
someone i know has been called for a judicial, even though she has said she doesn’t believe and is not not attending meetings and hasn’t for 6 months.what she did was 12 months ago when she was a witness.. she is not sure whether she should turn up or not, as turning up shows she thinks she answers to elders still.
but also doesn’t want to be automatically disfellowshipped which may happen if she doesn’t turn up.. if there is an article to quote saying someone inactive isn’t seen as a witness, this would be helpful.. any thoughts?.
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Hi, I seem to remember that the society have said that you are not viewed as a witness if you have not reported for 6 months.
Does this ring any bells? Someone I know has been called for a judicial, even though she has said she doesn’t believe and is not not attending meetings and hasn’t for 6 months.What she did was 12 months ago when she was a witness.
She is not sure whether she should turn up or not, as turning up shows she thinks she answers to elders still. But also doesn’t want to be automatically disfellowshipped which may happen if she doesn’t turn up.
if there is an article to quote saying someone inactive isn’t seen as a witness, this would be helpful.
any thoughts?
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more possible KH closures/sell off London area
by jookbeard inabout the mid 1980's they purchased a large plot of land in an area called addington a suburb of south london to build a kh complex comprising of 3 kh's with the options to add further congs to each kh, basically each kh could house 3 congs so the complex could possibly house 9 congs, it was a huge vanity project for the uk branch, you'd hear stories of how these congs are bursting at the seams etc, i think at one stage one of the congs had over 200 publishers, it was a huge construction project even bigger than the ca hall they were building a few miles south.
fast forward to last night and i got chatting to a couple of jw's in my local pub, i knew one of the guys as i used to sometimes see him in the town, he's a nice pleasant guy and i didn't get into any doctrinal discussions just chatted generally about how life is as a jw these days and the changes going on world wide etc, i touched on the vast kh and branch sell offs going on and he mentions that the addington site is to be sold!
i was astounded, nothing confirmed yet and but the land is prime real estate for housing development, the uk branch must have been offered a deal they cant refuse..
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kramer
@jookbeard , you are right, as Paddington was the home of the original UK bethel back in the 1900’s
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more possible KH closures/sell off London area
by jookbeard inabout the mid 1980's they purchased a large plot of land in an area called addington a suburb of south london to build a kh complex comprising of 3 kh's with the options to add further congs to each kh, basically each kh could house 3 congs so the complex could possibly house 9 congs, it was a huge vanity project for the uk branch, you'd hear stories of how these congs are bursting at the seams etc, i think at one stage one of the congs had over 200 publishers, it was a huge construction project even bigger than the ca hall they were building a few miles south.
fast forward to last night and i got chatting to a couple of jw's in my local pub, i knew one of the guys as i used to sometimes see him in the town, he's a nice pleasant guy and i didn't get into any doctrinal discussions just chatted generally about how life is as a jw these days and the changes going on world wide etc, i touched on the vast kh and branch sell offs going on and he mentions that the addington site is to be sold!
i was astounded, nothing confirmed yet and but the land is prime real estate for housing development, the uk branch must have been offered a deal they cant refuse..
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kramer
I have heard from old friends that the hall in central London that covers Paddington/Marylebone/Notting hill area is being closed (worth £5-7m) is being sold , also other congregations are being told in north west London that changes are to be made. A new property for about £1m has been bought to replace the property possibly. Interesting times.
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What is the current pulse in the organization with the reductions?
by SouthCentral ini have not seen jehovah’s witnesses in my neighborhood for several years now.
it appears that the cart witnessing has taken over.
congregations are being consolidated and witnesses are being forced to travel a greater distance than before.the burdens/privileges of elders seem to be ever increasing!.
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