Oh my god reading some of your stories just breaks my heart! I started having serious doubts when I started doing some research for a talk on 1914 and I did some research on the 607 BCE and I thought I'd be studious and look up some information on the internet, I came across the 587vs607BCE web site and when I realized that was wrong then it gave me the courage to start questioning other things I had doubts about.
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What First Stumbled You?
by glitter inwhat was the very first thing that "stumbled" you?
mine was: i was about 5 or 6 years old and of course i used to find it really hard to find things in my bible at meetings (couldn't find the books quick enough before they moved onto the next paragraph and used to get frustrated).
i had the idea to make little tabs for the edges of the pages so i could tell where the books were - so i asked mum to help me neatly write out the book names on tiny slips of paper and tape them inside.
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Just got Crisis of Conscience
by bull01lay injust got my mail order copy of crisis of conscience... got to chapter 2 in the first 20 mins!!!.
who else has read it, and what are your thoughts ???.
i've enjoyed it so far, and am glad to see how respectful ray franz was in his writing, with no 'outright attacks' on the wtbts.. bull!
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Changed my life! I had doubts before I read C of C but that book put the nail in the coffin!!!! Great book! and I love his attitude and how he handled the writing of it. If possible he wrote it in a loving way!!!
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My Dissassociation Letter
by eljefe ini have been poking around the forum for a while.
i have looked at a lot people's experiences on the forum and many of them mirror my own.
here is my disassociation letter.
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lv4fer
I like your letter. It is to the point, but yet it gives them something to think about. Good luck in your future endeavors. The road ahead is not easy and its so hard to have to leave family and friends behind. Very painful to say the least. But staying in is more painful, for me it would have driven me insane.
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Does anyone live in Las Vegas?
by lv4fer in.
my family and i moved here a few months ago.
it would be neat to meet some xjw's here..
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lv4fer
My family and I moved here a few months ago. It would be neat to meet some XJW's here.
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Where were you when you decided to quit being a JW?
by Steve Lowry infor me, it was at the hall.
it was an evening meeting.
i felt a kind of mental surge within me brewing and i got and went to the men?s room.
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Mine was sort of a slow process. It took me almost a year to say that's it I'm never going back. The only reason it took me that long was because of my kids, I knew they would loose all their friends and I didn't want to adversely effect them. When I finally convinced my husband by showing him scriptures and he made up his mind he went and told his mom and she went to the elders and well................there was no choice but to leave then. It was very hard for my kids because they didn't have and friends other than other JW's and they were both in high school. It has been two years and we are doing OK> we just moved to Las Vegas from California and that decision was partly made to try and start a new life away from all the JW's that we once knew. It really bothered my husband when his friends since childhood shunned him so we moved away from all of them.
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60's kids sign in!
by Beans inif you are a product of the 60's, witnessed the plaid pants in the 70's, loved the 80's and forget why the 90's happened check in here!.
yes i was born in 1968!.
beans.
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1963-here! 70's were good, graduated in 1980 80's were good. I was too busy in the 90's raising my two kids the 00's are still pretty busy but starting to get better!
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We're moving how can I help my teenage daughter adjust?
by lv4fer inwe're moving to las vegas!
i got a good job offer there and my sister and nieces live there.
my oldest who graduated from high school last year is moving up to northern california to go to college.
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We're moving to Las Vegas! I got a good job offer there and my sister and nieces live there. My oldest who graduated from high school last year is moving up to Northern California to go to college. My daughter is 15 (10th grade) She is not real happy. We've lived in the same area for 14 years and she has gone to school with the same kids since kindergarten ( a very small town) She likes Las Vegas but she is upset that she is not going to graduate with these kids whom she has gone to school with all her life. She has friends but her best friend since they were babies, she lost around a year and a half ago when we left the borg. The girls parents won't let her have any contact with my "apostate" daughter. This has been extremely difficult for my daughter. I feel really bad about creating more turmoil in her life, being a teenage girl in high school is bad enough. On the other hand, I moved in high school, in fact I went to more than a dozen schools my parents moved alot. I don't remember hating it too much it seemed like that was normal. I'm looking for any suggestions in making this as easy on her as possible. I don't want to read her post in 10 years saying how her parents ruined her life and she is a nutcase because of her parents moving her in high school.
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Is this for real
by Shanna inwell ive been studying with the jehovah witness for about 3 yrs now and im really thinking about making myself a publisher and i want to know is this website real and why are people talking about hiding their names what are they hiding it for shouldnt you be happy that youre studying with the jw and the jehovah called on you.
and what's up with all the swearing havent you thought about keeping up good lanquage in case someone visits this site and see that and whats up with the half naked pictures of women whats really going on
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You need to read the bible, not their translation, try a NIV translation. Read some information about the Jehovahs Witnesses not published by them so you can see both sides of the coin and then decide. ALso read some information on what a cult is.
Be careful
dont let them know you reading something other than their literature they will tell you it is apostate
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Disfellowshipping - How long to return?
by CaptK indoes anybody know how long it takes for one to get re-instated if you are not that well liked by the body of elders?
i was disfellowshiped for immorality almost 2 years ago.
with my job and attending college to keep in step with my field of work, i have only been attending the sunday talk & wt meeting every week.
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Why do you want to be reinstated? Do you believe in it still? Family? If you believe in it still you really should do some reading and research about the organization. It is a Cult. Read some information on Cults and how to identify one. You will see it fits perfectly. They don't teach the Gospel of Christ. They are not Christians, in fact think about it they don't even identify themself with Christiandom. They say they are different from it, why because they don't teach what Christ taught but they teach their own teachings. This should set off the alarm inside your head! Now if you need to get back in for family reasons, I'm sorry for you.
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Is it legal to announce DA?
by izobcenec inok, if someone sends da letter to his elders, that is a confidential.
thing...personal information.
but what do the elders do?
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We wrote a letter after they sent us a certified letter requesting my husband and I to meet with them regarding charges of apostacy. I called them and said the meeting was not a good time for us. Then I sent them a certified letter saying that we were not apostates in the biblical sense as we still believed in the bible and all the teachings of Jesus Christ. We said we would like to be left alone and if they made any announcement about us we would consider it slander and that they could possibly be sued. So they have left us alone, we are still shunned by most in the congregation. I called the presiding overseer up and asked if they had announced something due to our being shunned by the local congreation, he said they had not announced anything but that people do talk amongst themselves etc. And people have to do what their concience leads them to. So they probably started conversations about us in the car groups out in service and spread the info that way. We are not shunned by my husbands mother we agree not to talk religion, it upsets her. His sister talks to us if its in her best interest like can you fix my car etc., My dad does not shun me and said he never would. My husbands aunts and uncles and cousins do shun us. People that don't attend our local congregation if they run into us most do talk to us because they don't know we don't attend the meetings anymore. Unless they bring it up we don't say anything.