Posts by MacHislopp

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Three Reasons Why the 'Truth' Isn't True (#1)

by metatron in

reason number one:.

while i cannot prove herein that consciousness survives death of the .

body, i can point out a solid arguement that you must have some sort.

MacHislopp

Hello metatron,

thanks for the thought provoking topic.

Based on today's knowledge we are ...light

years away from the answer and...the solution.

Interesting also the Scriptures quoted .

I'll ...serarch.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

589

MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

MacHislopp

Hello Somebody,

thanks for your comment.

I did post it as a topic but I do believe

it should be here ..also.

C oncerning the United Nations affair,

I have to add that certains ones have great

difficulty in accepting evidences, with the aim

to demonstrate that in all this affair , that lasted

over 10 years , the WTBS has deceived all those

who believed that as part of Gods visible

organization on this planet, what she wrote or

announced publicly was true.

So, allow me, as a further proof of this - double tongue

to quote a rather recent statement , taken from one

of the WTBS Inc. s publications, the book :

Isaiahs Prophecy Light for all Mankind - published

in the year 2001, and released at the D.C., 2001 -

- book 2, page 268 paragraph12, second part and 13 , first part - It reads as follows:

By involving herself in politics , Christendom has committed fornication with the kings of the earth.

(Revelation 17:1,2) She is, in fact , a major supporter of the

United Nations. What lies ahead for this religious harlot? Well, what does Jehovah say to her prototype, unfaithful Judah, especially as represented by her capital city Jerusalem?

Your Collection Will not Deliver You

13 Whom did you become frightened at and begin to fear,

so that you took up lying? asks Jehovah. A good question! Judah certainly shows no wholesome , godly fear of Jehovah. Otherwise, she would have not become a nation

of liars , worshipers of false gods.

Now the last two lines:

No, instead she views Gods forebearance as indifference.

She has lost all fear of him.

Yet, notwithstanding her own written statement and

parallels, made with the ancient nation of Judah, and the

clear condemnation from the prophet Isaiah

who did register as NGO with the United Nations ,

agreeing to support the goals and ideals of that organization?

Well most of us know it all..!

Im sure that at this point youll remember Jesus words:

for by your own words you will be declared

righteous, and by your own words you will be

condemned. (Matthew 12:37)

Well most of us know it all..!

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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"Supporting the United Nations..???"

by MacHislopp in

jw
friends

ive been reading some comments and last week, .

even received e-mails concerning the united .

nations affair.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

Ive been reading some comments and last week,

even received e-mails concerning the United

Nations affair.

I have to add that certains ones have great

difficulty in accepting evidences, with the aim

to demonstrate that in all this affair , that lasted

over 10 years , the WTBS has deceived all those

who believed that as part of Gods visible

organization on this planet, what she wrote or

announced publicly was true.

So, allow me, as a further proof of this - double tongue

to quote a rather recent statement , taken from one

of the WTBS Inc. s publications, the book :

Isaiahs Prophecy Light for all Mankind - published

in the year 2001, and released at the D.C., 2001 -

- book 2, page 268 paragraph12, second part and 13 , first part - It reads as follows:

By involving herself in politics , Christendom has committed fornication with the kings of the earth.

(Revelation 17:1,2) She is, in fact , a major supporter of the

United Nations. What lies ahead for this religious harlot? Well, what does Jehovah say to her prototype, unfaithful Judah, especially as represented by her capital city Jerusalem?

Your Collection Will not Deliver You

13 Whom did you become frightened at and begin to fear,

so that you took up lying? asks Jehovah. A good question! Judah certainly shows no wholesome , godly fear of Jehovah. Otherwise, she would have not become a nation

of liars , worshipers of false gods.

Now the last two lines:

No, instead she views Gods forebearance as indifference.

She has lost all fear of him.

Yet, notwithstanding her own written statement and

parallels, made with the ancient nation of Judah, and the

clear condemnation from the prophet Isaiah

who did register as NGO with the United Nations ,

agreeing to support the goals and ideals of that organization?

Well most of us know it all..!

Im sure that at this point youll remember Jesus words:

for by your own words you will be declared

righteous, and by your own words you will be

condemned. (Matthew 12:37)

Well most of us know it all..!

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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30 more anointed last year..what the...

by Fruitcake in

hey, .

ive been on other sites, and i am a disfellowshipped witness dropping in to say hi, wanted to say that i have noticed that there have been 30 more anointed that have bit the cracker...and drunk the wine .anyone know how the gb is explaining this one?

thought the numbers would be going down , from how i was taught.....is the gb hoping no one will notice this , or will they be sending assassins to help lower that number?.

MacHislopp

Hello Fruitcake,

I'm sure that you'll appreciate ...a little research that

I did recently in this same topic : "...the anointed..."

See it : http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44720&site=3

Your comments are welcome,

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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The Fifth Estate: Post your comments HERE

by Scully in

for everyone who's watched.... or is in the process of watching the show..... .

please feel free to post your comments.... reactions.... quotes that stood out in your mind here!.

love, scully

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

your comments show clearly that " The Fifth Estate " Tv pro.

was a great things, and it opened ...things locked up by the

WTBS Inc.!!!

Europe is waiting for copies and ka...meanwhile we can ponder

over Outlaw 's excellent comment:

"Fifth Estate is a big deal in Canada,a very watched program.

JW`s are not going to have an easy time going from door to

door after this.It will only get worse as the word spreads....

WBTS and J.R.Brown,the whole world is begining to see you

for what you are,corrupt,lying dirtbags..Live with it. "

Amen,

J.C.MacHislopp

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Thank you, all who worked on the CBC program!

by onacruse in

jw
friends

we haven't even seen the program yet simon and others will make it available to those of us who didn't see the broadcast .

from what we've seen on the board this week, and in chat tonight, we can only start off by offering our special thanks to hawkaw.. thank you all!

you've all driven yet another wedge into the crumbling wts wall, and most important.... you've all helped give a voice to the suffering victims.. craig & katie

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

thanks for this wonderfull news...thinking about all those invoved

the anguish, the pain, thesuffering of thousands of children and those

who truly love them.

I do join sf : "Yes, a ~~standing ovation~~ is in definite order here..."!!!

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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Subtle change in UK Blood Policy

by caspian in

jw
friends

it seems that the latest directive from his at the branch office is the following.. .

hlc members are not to direct jw parents to refuse blood for their children any more.. in the past uk doctors could easily get a court order to force jw children to have a blood transfusion.

but the parents always had to refuse completely so that court action almost always took place.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

Its me again.

This is the second part concerning the WTBS Inc. andofficial position in

Italy. The information can be seen in:

http://www.giurisprudenza.unimi.it/~olir/documenti/documenti_confessionali.htm

OSSERVATORIO delle LIBERTA' ed ISTITUZIONI RELIGIOSE

DOCUMENTI : Confessioni e comunit religiose: Testimoni di Geova

Congregazione cristiana dei testimoni di Geova, Dati statistici sui Testimoni di Geova (31 agosto 2001) Congregazione cristiana dei testimoni di Geova Atto costitutivo dell'Associazione in Italia (1985) Consiglio di Stato (Sez. I) - Parere n. 1390/86 del 30 luglio 1986 - Riconoscimento della personalit giuridica alla Congregazione Cristiana dei Testimoni di Geova
D.P.R. n. 783 del 31 ottobre 1986 - Riconoscimento della personalit giuridica della Congregazione Cristiana dei Testimoni di Geova
Congregazione cristiana dei testimoni di Geova Statuto in Italia (1986) Congregazione cristiana dei testimoni di Geova Lettera all'on. Nicola Mancino Presidente del Senato in risposta alla Interrogazione parlamentare del senatore Francesco Bosi e altri al Presidente del Consiglio e ai Ministri dell'Interno e per il coordinamento della protezione civile e delle Finanze sulla Intesa con la Congregazione dei Testimoni di Geova (12 novembre 1998) - 24 novembre 1998. Intesa tra la Repubblica italiana e la Congregazione cristiana dei testimoni di Geova (20 marzo 2000) Bozza di intesa tra il Governo della Repubblica Italiana e la Congregazione cristiana dei Testimoni di Geova (19 gennaio 1998)

From all these document lets take this one:

24 novembre 1998

Preg.mo Sig.
On.le Avv. Nicola MANCINO
Presidente del Senato della Repubblica
Palazzo Madama
Piazza Madama
00186 ROMA

Gentilissimo Signor Presidente,

Abbiamo letto il testo di una interrogazione parlamentare rivolta da venti senatori al Presidente del Consiglio, al Ministro dellInterno e al Ministro delle Finanze, per chiedere praticamente di bloccare le trattative per la stipulazione di unintesa, ex art. 8 della Costituzione, con la confessione dei testimoni di Geova.

Al riguardo, innanzitutto, preme rilevare alcuni aspetti inquietanti della iniziativa:

a) Le informazioni e le censure riportate nellinterrogazione sono state gi ripetutamente presentate ed usate contro la nostra confessione religiosa dalle cosiddette organizzazioni "antisette", sulla cui natura e finalit accenneremo in seguito. Ci avvenuto sugli organi di stampa, nei convegni e in esposti a diverse autorit giudiziarie e amministrative le quali, ogni volta, hanno concluso rilevando con decreti o sentenze lassoluta infondatezza delle argomentazioni e citazioni fatte a sostegno delle accuse. Si allegano, in proposito, i decreti di archiviazione del G.I.P. dei Tribunali di Siena, di Bari, e del Tribunale Militare di Roma.[all. 1] (1) Questi decreti respingono peraltro alcune delle specifiche accuse espresse nellinterrogazione circa il voto, il servizio militare e i diritti degli espulsi.

b) A fronte di dette informazioni e/o illazioni, la nostra confessione ha sempre puntualmente prodotto prove documentali inoppugnabili, tali da smentire in modo radicale e completo la fondatezza delle medesime e nello stesso tempo, di fronte allevidenza della realt, da scoraggiare dal riproporre le medesime argomentazioni chiunque abbia un minimo di pudore e di dignit personale e non sia completamente asservito alle finalit diffamanti che si propone di perseguire.

So a letter from the WTBS legal representative/s to the

Italian President of the Senat.

Lets take the part concernin the minors and the question of transfusions:

(from page 3 and 4 - out of the total 16 pages of the letter)

Per quanto attiene ai pazienti minorenni, i genitori di solito non si oppongono e non ostacolano le decisioni della Magistratura quando essa eventualmente chiamata ad esprimersi sulla necessit di applicare un trattamento trasfusionale, lasciando che ci avvenga sotto la diretta responsabilit degli organi preposti a praticare detto trattamento.

In those few lines it is said that

: concerning the minors..the parents usually do not oppose and do not contrast the Body of Magistrates decisions when it is called to express about the necessity to apply a transfusional treatment, by allowing it to be made under the direct responsibility of the bodies assigned to perform such treatment.

I dont think that ones need any further comment.

Please, note also, that such official letter, was sent as an answer to various accusations made against the Jehovahs Witnesses representatives i.e. Congregazione cristiana dei Testimoni di Geova to oppose an

eventual agreement between the Italian Government and such religious organization . As one cas see the letter is dated 24 th November 1998.

Again the same question: how many Italians do know about this letter??

Im sure that really few have seen the actual content.

Thanks again to my various friends for the help and one

big thank to Alberto.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

P.S. Feel free to ask questions or email me.

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Subtle change in UK Blood Policy

by caspian in

jw
friends

it seems that the latest directive from his at the branch office is the following.. .

hlc members are not to direct jw parents to refuse blood for their children any more.. in the past uk doctors could easily get a court order to force jw children to have a blood transfusion.

but the parents always had to refuse completely so that court action almost always took place.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

As I wrote before I can give you the written statements

all taken from the WTBS official french site:

http://www.temoinsdejehovah.org/

1) Les Tmoins de Jhovah, la vie, le sang

La dclaration solennelle du consistoire national des tmoins de Jhovah en date du 3 juillet 1997 a fait l'objet d'une brochure intitule " Les Tmoins de Jhovah, la vie, le sang ". Cette brochure est reproduite ici. Vous pouvez aussi la tlcharger au format pdf .

Sommaire

2) Les Tmoins de Jhovah, la vie, le sang

DCLARATION SOLENNELLE DE L'ASSEMBLE PLNIRE
DU CONSISTOIRE NATIONAL DES TMOINS DE JHOVAH
RUNIE LE JEUDI 3 JUILLET 1997

Dsireux d'honorer et de glorifier Jhovah, le Dieu Tout-Puissant ;
Soucieux du bien-tre physique, moral et spirituel des adorateurs de Dieu ;
Dtermins vivre en paix avec tous les hommes
et rendre Csar ce qui lui revient ;

Nous, CONSISTOIRE NATIONAL DES TMOINS DE JHOVAH,

Raffirmons solennellement notre attachement au caractre sacr de la vie et du sang ;
Considrons que chaque chrtien a le devoir sacr de protger la vie qu'il a reue en dpt ainsi que celle de ses enfants ;
Approuvons le texte intgral publi en annexe qui expose la position chrtienne des Tmoins de Jhovah sur le sujet des transfusions sanguines ;
Prions Dieu et demandons l'aide de son esprit saint pour favoriser l'amour des lois divines dans le respect de la dignit humaine ;
Confions au Porte-parole du Consistoire la mission de diffuser la prsente dclaration solennelle.

Jean-Marie Bockaert,
Prsident du Consistoire national

Ill give you only the relevant and very interesting parts. Of course you can get the all text from the official site.

3) La vie est sacre

ES Tmoins de Jhovah sont connus, dans le monde entier, comme une religion chrtienne 1 . Leur nom est issu d'un passage de l'criture qui qualifie de tmoins les serviteurs de Dieu 2 . Ils comptent plus de 13 millions de fidles et sympathisants dans le monde, dont quelque 250 000 en France. Ils sont reprsents en France depuis le dbut du sicle. Leurs croyances sont fondes sur la Bible, qui est pour eux Parole de Dieu. Ils croient en un Dieu unique, le Pre, Jhovah, Crateur de toutes choses. Ils exercent la foi en Christ, Fils de Dieu. Ils vivent le christianisme et respectent les gouvernements et les autorits.

Conformment aux principes bibliques, les Tmoins de Jhovah considrent la vie comme sacre. Par consquent, ils accordent une grande importance leur sant et celle de leurs enfants, et font tout ce qui est en leur pouvoir pour la prserver. Ils s'abstiennent du tabac, de la drogue, et font un usage modr de l'alcool. Ils recourent la mdecine moderne et ne font pas appel aux gurisons miraculeuses. Contrairement une ide rpandue, ils ne s'opposent pas la vaccination. Ils n'acceptent pas la transfusion du sang allognique (le sang d'un tiers). Ce choix est fond sur leur comprhension des textes bibliques 3 .

Les seuls produits de l'arsenal thrapeutique actuel dont, le cas chant, le patient Tmoin de Jhovah pourrait s'abstenir sont le sang total, les concentrs globulaires, les concentrs plaquettaires, les concentrs leucocytaires ainsi que le plasma.

Toutefois, certains Tmoins de Jhovah considrent, conformment leur libre choix religieux, que les principes bibliques impliqus n'cartent pas l'utilisation des produits de fractionnement du plasma tels que l'albumine, les immunoglobulines, l'antithrombine et les facteurs de coagulation 4 . De plus, de nombreux Tmoins acceptent la transfusion de sang autologue (le sang de la personne elle-mme) au cours de procdures telles que l'hmodilution normovolmique et la rcupration per- et postopratoire du sang. Ils vitent ainsi de nombreuses maladies transmissibles par le sang, dont certaines sont potentiellement mortelles. Ainsi, propos des Tmoins de Jhovah, le Commissaire du Gouvernement Patrick Hubert considre qu'il faut se placer sur le seul " terrain des faits et valuer les risques en tenant compte des individus en prsence " 5 .

Les patients Tmoins de Jhovah recourent systmatiquement aux soins mdicaux, comme tout un chacun, et souhaitent bnficier de leurs bienfaits. Ils sont trs reconnaissants au corps mdical qui se dvoue au bien-tre des patients. Leur position spcifique, en tant que groupe religieux, ne concerne que les produits sanguins avec les nuances mentionnes plus haut.

Il s'agit donc d'un choix thrapeutique, ce qui n'est pas assimilable un refus global de soins 6 . Cette option est d'autant mieux admise par le corps mdical que, malheureusement, les dangers des produits sanguins se sont manifests de faon spectaculaire et dramatique dans les annes 80 avec l'avnement de l'infection par le HIV. Nous n'oublierons pas les risques immunologiques (incompatibilit entre le receveur et le donneur) potentiellement ltaux, connus depuis longtemps, ainsi que les autres risques infectieux, comme l'hpatite C 7 . Actuellement, la baisse potentielle de l'immunit la suite d'une transfusion 8 ainsi que le risque de transmission d'agents infectieux non conventionnels responsables des affections telles que la maladie de Creutzfeldt-Jakob 9 , issue fatale systmatique, ont veill de nouvelles craintes en cours d'investigation. Bien que ces facteurs puissent influencer le choix des Tmoins de Jhovah, leur position relve principalement de leur respect individuel des instructions divines relatives l'usage du sang : il appartient chacun d'entre eux d'utiliser son libre arbitre.

(Notice that it is said in the conditional form: they might abstain.

And its referring not to the people in general but to the Jehovahs Witnesses.)

4) La question des mineurs

Eu gard l'enseignement de la Bible et aux dangers rels de la transfusion, les parents Tmoins de Jhovah tendent leur choix thrapeutique leurs enfants. Ils reconnaissent que le mdecin a la possibilit de saisir l'autorit judiciaire pour administrer une transfusion contre leur volont. Nanmoins, l'exprience montre que l'intrt des parents a trs souvent permis la mise en uvre de thrapeutiques alternatives la transfusion, scientifiquement prouves, chez leurs enfants mineurs 24 . Par ailleurs, partir d'un certain ge, le mineur est susceptible de faire valoir sa propre autodtermination 25 , ce que respectent naturellement ses parents.

Les Tmoins de Jhovah cherchent procurer les meilleurs soins pour leurs enfants. Ces derniers sont hospitaliss comme les autres enfants 26 . Les parents comprennent que demander de soigner leurs enfants sans employer de sang peut engendrer des difficults techniques et des rsistances thiques chez des praticiens non rompus aux techniques de soins sans transfusion.

Dans la recherche de soins appropris pour leurs enfants, ces parents s'adressent souvent des mdecins renomms qui utilisent efficacement des techniques alternatives la transfusion, des mdecins qui ont dj collabor avec les patients Tmoins de Jhovah. Le plus souvent, les soins sont possibles sans recours au sang. Dans les cas les plus complexes, lorsque l'indication transfusionnelle semble s'imposer immdiatement ou potentiellement, les parents participent activement la recherche d'une technique de substitution. Ils peuvent faire appel la structure mise en place par les Tmoins de Jhovah pour faciliter cette recherche. Ainsi, si un procd thrapeutique a fait la preuve de son efficacit, ou si le recours la comptence d'une autre quipe mdicale rduit le risque de transfusion sans mettre en danger le processus vital, ils privilgieront cette dernire option efficacit mdicale quivalente.

L'ide selon laquelle des parents renieraient leur enfant transfus contre leur gr, le considrant comme impur, est absolument inacceptable pour les Tmoins de Jhovah. Une telle conception des choses n'a aucun fondement biblique. Ces parents ne voudront aucun prix priver leur enfant qu'ils chrissent de l'attention et de l'amour dont il a besoin, tout particulirement dans les moments prouvants qu'engendrent des soins mdicaux lourds.

(They recognize that the doctor has the possiblity to call upon the judicial authority to administer a blood transfusion against ones will.)

5)

La structure internationale mise en place par les Tmoins de Jhovah prsente un bilan trs positif pour l'ensemble des partenaires. La confiance indispensable dans la relation malade-mdecin est renforce. Le mdecin, lui, bnficie, par l'intermdiaire du comit de liaison hospitalier, de la documentation relative aux thrapeutiques alternatives la transfusion sanguine dans sa spcialit, mais aussi d'informations juridiques et thiques 31 . Le comit de liaison hospitalier peut aussi, sur sa demande, le mettre en contact avec d'autres confrres ayant une plus grande exprience des patients Tmoins de Jhovah pour des problmes spcifiques. La structure franaise a souscrit un contrat auprs de la compagnie Mondial Assistance qui transfre, si besoin est, le patient vers un tablissement hospitalier appropri lorsque le centre o il est hospitalis n'est pas mme de poursuivre les soins en respectant ses convictions. Le cas chant, il est aussi prvu de transfrer du matriel mdical ou une quipe sur le lieu d'hospitalisation afin d'utiliser des techniques d'pargne sanguine non disponibles sur place.

En France, se rfrant l'activit cumule de 1993 1996, les comits de liaison hospitaliers ont coopr avec les mdecins pour assurer des soins de qualit en conformit avec les donnes acquises de la science chez 11 877 patients (10 385 adultes et 1 492 enfants). Il est noter qu'une transfusion a t administre en moyenne chez 12 mineurs par an, reprsentant 3,2 % des cas de mineurs traits. En d'autres termes, la structure mise en place par les Tmoins de Jhovah a fourni une solution mdicale dans le respect de la volont des patients et de l'thique des soignants. Ces rsultats, tays par une bibliographie scientifique croissante, soulignent l'vidence d'une mdecine et d'une chirurgie sans transfusion efficaces et en plein essor. Ils s'inscrivent dans une dmarche thique fonde sur le respect et la promotion de la dignit humaine.

Copyright 1999 Association Cultuelle les Tmoins de Jhovah de France. Tous droits rservs.
Adresse postale : B.P. 625, 27406 Louviers Cedex - Tlphone : 02.32.25.55.55 - Tlcopie : 02.32.25.56.56

(Note that they say that, on average, transfusion has been administerd to 12

minors /year, which represented 3.2% of treatred cases of minors.)

By the way, Im sure that many Jehovahs Witnesses even in France dont know

these things, nor the existence of a body called L'ASSEMBLE PLNIRE
DU CONSISTOIRE NATIONAL DES TMOINS DE JHOVAH!!

I hope that this will be of help, and I do that my friend Alberto for the

Cooperation.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

P.S. Sorry for the difference in size.

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Subtle change in UK Blood Policy

by caspian in

jw
friends

it seems that the latest directive from his at the branch office is the following.. .

hlc members are not to direct jw parents to refuse blood for their children any more.. in the past uk doctors could easily get a court order to force jw children to have a blood transfusion.

but the parents always had to refuse completely so that court action almost always took place.

MacHislopp

Hello Caspian,

thanks for the information and I would like to comment on this part:

"So great news for UK JW children, however this doesn't

apply to JW children in other lands,"

I can assure you, and I can support it by posting - material from

the WTBS and associated corporations, that in many European

countries, when are children involved, and in serious events,

they - the parents- MUST give in and let the doctor/s proceed

with the chosen therapy, inlcuding blood transfusions.

Of course they'll say that it was by "court orders" and

not by their own will or initiative. To act in a different way or even

opposing, in these emergency situatiuons, invloving minor children

it is considering a serious - crime- or omission of help to a person

in danger. Anyhow, it will be interesting to - s e e - the actual

information given to the HLC in Great Britain.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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Prayer to Jesus Christ?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

did the apostles and disciples pray to jesus christ?

2nd corinthians 12:8: concerning this thing, i begged the lord three times that it might depart from me.. 2nd corinthians 12:9: he has said to me, "my grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.

" most gladly therefore i will rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of christ may rest on me.. 2nd corinthians 12:10: therefore i take pleasure in weaknesses, in injuries, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for christ's sake.

MacHislopp

Hello Undisfellowshipped,

thanks for this great topic, supported by many clear scriptures.

Onacruse :

"I do especially like John 14:14, where Westcott & Hort translates to "If you ask ME anything in my name, I will do it." The Kingdom Interlinear shows this reading in the subtext, but in the NWT column it conveniently drops the ME, without even so much as a footnote. "

Excellent point. I've used and difended whith the K. Int.

Result...no defense...because it's true.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp