Posts by MacHislopp

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Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

by DoubtingThomas in

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i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

MacHislopp

Hello Doubting Thomas,

Interesting comments on your part...

Can you please read the following entire QfR ?

*** w86 4/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***

Why have Jehovah’s Witnesses disfellowshipped (excommunicated)

for apostasy some who still profess belief in God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ?

Those who voice such an objection point out that many religious organizations claiming to be Christian allow dissident views. Even some clergymen disagree with basic teachings of their church, yet they remain in good standing. In nearly all the denominations of Christendom, there are modernists and fundamentalists who greatly disagree with one another as to the inspiration of the Scriptures.

However, such examples provide no grounds for our doing the same. Why not? Many of such denominations allow widely divergent views among the clergy and the laity because they feel they cannot be certain as to just what is Bible truth. They are like the scribes and Pharisees of Jesus’ day who were unable to speak as persons having authority, which is how Jesus taught. (Matthew 7:29) Moreover, to the extent that religionists believe in interfaith, they are obligated not to take divergent beliefs too seriously.

(& 1 and 23)…..

Obviously, a basis for approved fellowship with Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot rest merely on a belief in God, in the Bible, in Jesus Christ, and so forth. The Roman Catholic pope, as well as the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, professes such beliefs, yet their church memberships are exclusive of each other. Likewise, simply professing to have such beliefs would not authorize one to be known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include

( 1 6 and 7)

When you have finished the reading would you kindly expalin to thsi board the following , expecially how,

by which means ... « Jehovah reveals the truth gradually .. » today and to whom ??

THE WATCHTOWER OCTOBER 2021 STUDY ARTICLE 42 pages 47-48 § 12

Hold Fast to the Truth With Strong Conviction

12 God’s people today do not claim to have perfect or complete knowledge of the truth . At times, they have made mistakes in doctrinal matters and in organizational direction. That should not surprise us. The Scriptures make it clear that accurate knowledge increases with time. (Col. 1:9, 10) Jehovah reveals the truth gradually, and we must be willing to wait patiently for the light of truth to get brighter. (Prov. 4:18) When those taking the lead realize that our understanding on a certain point of truth needs to be clarified, they do not hesitate to make the needed adjustments. While many denominations in Christendom make changes to please their congregations or to get closer to the world, the changes made by Jehovah’s organization are designed to draw us closer to God and to the pattern of worship established by Jesus. (Jas. 4:4) The adjustments we make are drivern not by trends or popular demands, but by a clearer understanding of the Scriptures. We love the truth!—1 Thess. 2:3, 4

12) What happens when those taking the lead realize that our understanding needs to be clarified, and why do they take that action?

I'm very interested – and I do believe many others too in your biblical answer, in line with Jesus words “I am the way and the truth and the life: » (John 14:6)

Greetings J..C. MacHoislopp

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From MacHislopp--Grand Total Questions!

by Atlantis in

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i was asked post this for machislopp.

cookie thief!.

machislopp writes:.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

allow me to thank you for your comments, quite on target.

I would leke to add that the reason for digging more on the subject

was from an older article published by the Society ...48 years ago!

Please take note ot the Society's Governing Body remarks made concerning

» ...our brothers and sisters are trying to show faith without any works? ».

** yb74 pp. 254-255 Is Your Faith Dead or Alive?

James said, “Faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.” (Jas. 2:17) Having now read the Yearbook, can you say that Jehovah’s Christian witnesses world wide have faith that led them into action? Their faith is certainly not a lifeless thing. All true Christians must show that their faith is a live faith, because “faith without works is dead.” (Jas. 2:26) One’s faith must show up through work in some way. How? Look at the results with 193,990 persons being baptized last year. Jehovah’s witnesses were doing what Christ Jesus directed his disciples to do, make more disciples! So their faith shown by works has been productive.

It is very interesting to note that in the last seven years 949,842 persons were baptized; and in the last 26 years, 2,084,398. These figures say something to us. At the close of the year 1966 there were 1,118,665 publishers who were sharing in the Kingdom service, and since then there have been another 949,842 persons baptized. So today, if we make allowance for those who have died, which normally runs to about one percent per year, still we should have nearly two million persons who could be preaching the good news.

The Yearbook report shows there was a peak in publishers of 1,758,429 out in the field in 1973. So that is approximately 250,000 short of two million. Think of James’ words again: “Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works?” (Jas. 2:14) Remember, he is talking to those who have dedicated their lives to God and are baptized. He is addressing his words to “my brothers.” Are we to assume that about 250,000 of our brothers and sisters are trying to show faith without any works? It is something to ponder over.

The Society’s records show that 2,084,398 persons were baptized in the last 26 years. Add to that the publishers who were in the field service the previous year, 1947, namely, 207,552, and that gives you a total of 2,291,950 persons. Allowing for the death of about 225,000 persons, at the usual rate of one percent each year, are we to say that since 1947 there have been over three hundred thousand brothers and sisters who have gone out in the field service at some time or other since their dedication and baptism and are now trying to show Jehovah and others their faith without works? James says: “Faith divorced from deeds is lifeless as a corpse.”—Jas. 2:26, NE.

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Conclusion : The reasons... starting with death of many member/year, maby

dissociated, many disfellowshipped and other fadaed...(including the inactves)

the real facts of life shows that hundreds of thousands baptizedJehovah's

Witnesseare...missing and no longer « active publishers » in their congregation.

And the period I did choose, was the last 4 years , from 201/ to 2021 included

It is also very ironical that the Society's Governing Body added..48 years ago

the comment : « It is something to ponder over. »

Greetings to eveyone,

JC MacHislopp

PS Many thanks to Atlantis for stepping in to help me.

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A little something you have not yet heard.

by lastmanstanding in

i hope to make a very interesting post here, and informative.

i’m quite sure no one here has heard this content.

i would like to finally make known some heretofore undisclosed details concerning something that has affected probably everyone on this board to some degree.

MacHislopp

Hello lastmanstanding,

many thanks for your excellent post and the uncovering

of the mighty - for not too long - WTBS Ins and its

"Governing Body' Please let us know any further news on the

matter.

I was pleased to read abourt you subjet, because following an

information from a famous Norvigian poster fid id stat a topic

-20 years ago - entitled:

"UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS"

If you have some time...look at it!

Again many thanks for your post - downloaded into my archives -

My best greetings,

JC MacHislopp

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2021 Annual Meeting!

by Atlantis in

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the 2021 annual meeting is causing quite an upset.

if you missed the download link before, then here it is again.. 2021 annual meeting in full.. here:.

https://www.filemail.com/d/lqocjuynimtsehe.

MacHislopp

Hello Atlantis,

many, many thanks for providing the 2021 Annual Meeting in full.

I've just finished the download Will comment as I get through

the all video sections.

Many greeting to you and your team ...and the source of this

piece of evidence.

From me and my European friends,

sincerely

JC MacHislopp

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Recent Annual Meeting - Asking for Clarification

by truth_b_known in

would someone in the know please clarify for me some alleged comments given from the governing body at the recent/yet to be streamed for the rank and file annual meeting?.

it is my understanding that samuel herd basically tells the rank and file that old light is new light and the new light of july, 2013 is now old light.

to be specific, herd states that the official stance on whether or not the annointed remaining on earth, to include the governing body, will all be in heaven prior to armageddon.. at this same annual meeting tony morris iii tells those in attendance that stephen letts' statement that "we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days!

MacHislopp

Hello LongHairGal,

many thanks for correcting the error : 52 years not 54 !

Bihai: yes it is old light but the mighty WTBS Inc. and its 'Governing Body'

claims that:

" w16 October pp. 22-23 par. 7 Strengthen Your Faith in What

You Hope For ** *Jehovah has also blessed us with an abundant

supply of spiritual food provided through “the faithful and discreet slave.”

(Matt. 24:45)

Greetings to all,

JCMacHislopp

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Recent Annual Meeting - Asking for Clarification

by truth_b_known in

would someone in the know please clarify for me some alleged comments given from the governing body at the recent/yet to be streamed for the rank and file annual meeting?.

it is my understanding that samuel herd basically tells the rank and file that old light is new light and the new light of july, 2013 is now old light.

to be specific, herd states that the official stance on whether or not the annointed remaining on earth, to include the governing body, will all be in heaven prior to armageddon.. at this same annual meeting tony morris iii tells those in attendance that stephen letts' statement that "we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days!

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

please allow me to contribute, with an information - published 54 years ago-

from the mighty WTBS Inc. :

** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***

"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not require such long periods of additional schooling… True, those who do not understand where we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order? "

Many greeting to you all,

JC MacHiqlopp

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2021-December-S-147-English Announcements-and-Italian--Portuguese Elder Manuals!

by Atlantis in

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2021-december-s-147-uk-announcements and reminders.

https://www.filemail.com/d/aqervnmnydhabudorhttps://we.tl/t-fffjovd2ep-----------------------------------.

2021-october-italian-sfl-shepherd the flock-elder manualhttps://www.filemail.com/d/ovlnprszkuparxmor.

MacHislopp

Hello Atlantis,

as usual many, many thanks from me and my European friends!

Excellent stuff...and I do agree with 'JW GoneBad' that the mighty

publications Society got stuck in the mud;

".....digital publications and other printed literature, including older issues of the magazines, may continue to be used in the ministry."

This is an excellent news especially when the Society claims that :

w16 October pp. 22-23 par. 7 Strengthen Your Faith in What You Hope For ***

Jehovah has also blessed us with an abundant supply of spiritual food provided through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45)

and

Figuratively speaking, Jehovah has caused life-sustaining grain to sprout up abundantly for his people. The timely spiritual food provided through our district conventions well illustrates this fact.(km 04/04 page 4)

Thanks again Atlantis to you and your family together with

and many sincere greetings,

JC MacHislopp

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The New Files Are Back There By The Cinnamon Rolls!

by Atlantis in

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elder manuals in english and spanish--addendum--and--announcement.. they are sitting back there by the cinnamon rolls and coffee pot.. here:.

https://www.filemail.com/d/grkasnjvjsedchw.

https://we.tl/t-anqq8an2t2.

MacHislopp

Hello Atlantis,

please accept my thanks for these wonderful " season gift"!!!

My european friends will be delighted to receive - fresh from the

great print factory - this veryt interesting documentation!!!

With my sincere and best wishes to you and your family -

Petra included - of course,

JC MacHislopp

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Yahweh OF Samaria

by peacefulpete in

most everyone has heard of the 8th/9th century bc kuntillet ‘ajrud inscriptions that mention yahweh and his ashera, that is that yahweh was understood as having a female consort.

interesting as that is, often overlooked in the inscriptions are the names of the god yahweh himself.

the writings are themselves apparently practice work by scribes learning the trade and cover many topics.

MacHislopp

Hello peacefulpete,

thanks for the interesting informatios about

"YHWH of Samaria and YHWH of Teman" .-

I do agree with you concerning the reason why

the WTBS Inc. shifted to " recorded media and lessening

the teaching role of the local church leadership is to

tighten ranks and control."

Now the members od the Society's GB are everywhere,

even in the most trivial videos.

Power, control and money are the motivating factor

for this and imho, is going to increase ...untile the

final collapse ..for money matters, compensation for

undisclosed amout to the victims of child abuse,

all over the world.

Thanks again and many greetings,

JC MacHislopp

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Sexual abuse of children by French Catholic clergy,

by MacHislopp in

ihave received from aeuropean friend the following:.

pope francis on wednesday expressed his personal shame and that of the church at the sexual abuse of children by french catholic clergy, after the scale of the problem was laid bare in a devastating report.. i wish to express to the victims my sadness and pain for the trauma they have suffered," he said during his weekly audience at the vatican.. "and also my shame, our shame, my shame for the inability of the church for too long to put them at the centre of its concerns.. "i pray and we all pray together -- to you lord the glory, to us the shame.

this is the time for shame.".

MacHislopp

Hello every one,

Ihave received from aEuropean friend the following:

Pope Francis on Wednesday expressed his personal shame and that of the Church at the sexual abuse of children by French Catholic clergy, after the scale of the problem was laid bare in a devastating report.

I wish to express to the victims my sadness and pain for the trauma they have suffered," he said during his weekly audience at the Vatican.

"And also my shame, our shame, my shame for the inability of the Church for too long to put them at the centre of its concerns.

"I pray and we all pray together -- to you Lord the glory, to us the shame. This is the time for shame."

An independent commission on Tuesday revealed that French Catholic clergy sexually abused around 216,000 minors over seven decades since 1950, a "massive phenomenon" that was covered up by a "veil of silence".

....Dealing with the avalanche of revelations about sexual abuse by clergy was one of the biggest challenges that Francis faced when he was elected pope in 2013.

He declared an end to impunity and changed Vatican law to make reporting abuse mandatory, but victims have warned it is not enough

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You can read more at:

(url RTL Today - Devastating report: Pope expresses 'shame' at French sex abuse scandal-)When the Society's Governing Body will do the same...or better when will

they wil be forced by the courts to admit and pay the full consequences ?

Greetings to all of you,

JC MacHislopp