Hello everyone,
few lines to thanks Greven, Ryzorblade and Brummie
for the comments and useful suggestions for the research.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as i wrote already im preparing a research on the wtbs
publications terminology and in addition to the
word/s and expression already posted ive these ones:
Hello everyone,
few lines to thanks Greven, Ryzorblade and Brummie
for the comments and useful suggestions for the research.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
today i was reading the feb 15, 2003 watchtower, they quote volume 6 of "studies in the scriptures", "the new creation" written by c.t.
russell in 1904. there was an asterisk next to the "studies in the scriptures", know what the footnote said?
"published by jehovah's witnesses but now out of print.
Hello RR,
thanks for the topic and the logic development.
As you are well aware, the part of the "Studies..."
quoted, does not exactly say what the partial and
very small quote on "The Watchtower" writes.
Those who read one /two pages - before - and
after the quoted page, will see the real difference.
Again, deception and lies, as usual, from the WTBS Inc.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as i wrote already im preparing a research on the wtbs
publications terminology and in addition to the
word/s and expression already posted ive these ones:
Hello everyone,
word/s and expression already posted I’ve these ones:
Jehovah,
Jesus,
Holy spirit,
Satan,
devil,
demons,
demonic,
angels,
angelic,
CT Russell,
J. Rutherford,
heavenly hope,
earthly hope,
heavenly reward,
worldwide brotherhood,
true worship,
Jehovah’s blessing,
faithful and discreet slave class,
faithful and discreet,
contributions,
voluntary contributions,
earthly organization,
time of the end,
end of this system of things,
system of things,
evidently,
flashes of light,
salvation,
destruction,
some brothers,
Jehovah’s Christian witnesses,
Fear of Jehovah,
money,
apostate,
apostates,
love,
hates,
internet….etc.
If you have any suggestions …do not hesitate to post it.
Greetings, James Charles MacHislopp
(I’ve already received few positive… e-mails )
true believers meet at armageddon (december 30, 2000)
i find it oddly satisfying to read old reports of intelligent, scholarly, well-read men who confidently picked the time of the end.
and were obviously wrong.
Hello Jgnat,
thanks for posting "the 6 lines of evidence...", another great deceptive
way by the WTBS.
Read all th einteresting comments, and finally I do agree with your
well phrased conclusion:
1***" The organization has gentrified in to a lazy, easily controlled cash cow. Growth spikes would be harder to manage and control. Some of the latest videos glorify the past history of the WTS. Tradition and loyalty override Truth (tm) and logic. "
2*** "What the WTS will have trouble maintaining, however, is the myth that they are the Only True (upstart) religion that is overthrowing the chains of the traditions of men. "
3*** "They are no longer the newest thing on the block. They have followed the path of every other religious offshoot, and stiffened up as they aged."
Great!!!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
well i got me a copy of the new wt 2001 cd rom, and started looking at it and learning how to use it.. this was the very first thing i stumbled across, which was a thing that always bothered me.
those of you who saw me and watched my phases as i left will remember that this topic was a major issue for me.. .
here is the article, in part:.
Helo Zev,
thanks for the post. That article shows what great opinion the WTBS has
of the R& F in general.
Imho, Maverick gave a great answer:
1***"Holy Spirit is mentioned exclusively in the beginning and the Governing Body is shuffled midway in the article. Toward the end of the article, authority is transferred to the Governing Body as the out working of Holy Spirit. You could insert Governing Body in any place Holy Spirit is placed."
and
2*** "Somewhere in this looping reasoning they just give up and let it flow in unimpeded. It is a prime example of, " If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit!" Somewhere in this looping reasoning they just give up and let it flow in unimpeded. It is a prime example of, " If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit!"
Yet for some they still are:
" God's visible representatives on earth" and
"the anointed remnant , brothers of Jesus Christ"
"the only channel to understand God's will"!!!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
- n of times use of the word..9,089 times
- n of times in the whole bible .. .0
- n of times use of the word..4,969 times
Hello everyone,
to Sargon , Farkel and Ozziepost :
thanks for your kind comment.
to Logansrun:
word "report" as in "field service report" "congregation report »
another search !
to Mary:
"running ahead of the Organization"
"waiting on Jehovah"
"loyally submitting to theocratic order".
More searches to do !
.
to Hoberus:
« VINDICATION « and « SOVEREIGNTY »
These are next on the list.
to Will power:
« Armageddon, mature christian , anointed paradise earth «
On the list as well !!
Here are those I’ve already prepared :
9* « governing body »
- n° of times use of the word…………………..9,089 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. …………….0
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …. 260
(w. 15.12.71 pages 755-762 )
10* « armageddon »
- n° of times use of the word…………………..4,969 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. …………….3
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …. 49
(w. 15.10.64 pages 621-633….49 times)
(w. 15.05.90 pages 3-7 ……...43 times)
11* « waiting on Jehovah »
- n° of times use of the word………………………..39 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. …………….0
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …. ..3
(w. 15.08.73 pages 497-500)
12* « true Christian »
- n° of times use of the word………………………..893 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. …………….0
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …. .14
(w. 15.04.55 pages 229-232)
13* « anointed remnant »
- n° of times use of the word………………………..1,221 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. ……………..….0
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… ………..27. .
(Book pm – 1972- chp. 21 pages 365-371)
14* « judicial committee «
- n° of times use of the word……………………….. ….157 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. ……………..…….0
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… ………….14. .
(kingdom ministry – 9/77 pages 4-6)
15* « t r u t h «
- n° of times use of the word……………………….. ….30,477 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. ……………..……..247
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …………. ..273 .
(yearbook 1970 pages 85-201……..273 times)
also 5th highest use in one article :
( w. 1.11.65 pages 645-658 ……….128 times)
16* « false religion «
- n° of times use of the word……………………….. …….2,563 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. ……………..………….0
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …………. .. .57 .
(w. 1.11.68 pages 645-651)
17* « vindication «
- n° of times use of the word……………………….. ……….861 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. ……………..………….2
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …………. .. ..20.
(w. 1.08.57 pages 452-456 )
18* « sovereignty «
- n° of times use of the word……………………….. ………..2,790 times
- n° of times in the whole Bible …….. ……………..…………….5
- maximum n° of times use in one article…… …………. .. …..74
(Bkl - og /1975 pages 3-29 …….74 times)
also 2 nd highest use in one article :
(w. 15.10.75 pages 617-623 ………52 times)
Well I do hope that you did enjoy the…trip in the
WTBS Inc. Terminolgy’ s world.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
- n of times use of the word.16,083 times.
- n of times use of the word.6,150 times.
- n of times use of the word.2,321 times.
Hello everyone,
Dan the Man: a very good suggestion,..for the next time.
Logansrun: It is true but, overall you have to admit that some words
are used only for the WTBS Inc. ' own needs, and you must
admit they are making a mighty good use of them.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
while the wts is very proud to trot out its stats now, it is like mining for diamonds to find the stats before 1935. here is what i found.. 1914 18,243 attendance.
1917 21,274 attendance.
1935 63,146 attendance (52,456 pubs; 56,153 partakers).
Hello Blondie,
it's me again. Here are some more figures:
From the book "Jehovah's witnesses in the divine purpose"
(page 110) Report of the attendance at the annual celebration of
the Lord's evening meal:
YEAR 1922 ........................32,661 partecipating;
YEAR 1923.........................42,000 " ;
YEAR 1924........................ 62,696 " ;
YEAR 1925........................90,434 " (g)
(g) Footnote : w 1922pp. 200,201; w01923 p.218; w1924 p. 242; w 1925 p.263.-
These total attendance figures earth-wide do not count in groups of less than
20 celebrators of the Lord' s evening meal, excepting some foreign reports. "
I'm sure that these too will be of help.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
while the wts is very proud to trot out its stats now, it is like mining for diamonds to find the stats before 1935. here is what i found.. 1914 18,243 attendance.
1917 21,274 attendance.
1935 63,146 attendance (52,456 pubs; 56,153 partakers).
Hello Blondie,
thanks for the figures.
The book "Jehovah's witnesses in the divine purpose " has:
(page 50) Memorial attendance - incomplete - for the year 1915 ....15,430
(page 73) " " " for the year 1918......21,274
(page 73) " "-according to a partial report - without all foreign
lands included, attendance figures were for the Memorial April 13th ,1919
a total of 17,961. " The book then adds:" ...it becomes evident that far less
than 4,000 had ceased to associate with their former faithful associates.(x)
(x) Footnote w. 1917 p.157; w. 1919 p. 151 .-
I do hope that this will be useful.
Thanks for your excellent subjects and comments.
Greetings,
James Charles MacHislopp
.
the society is actively gearing up for possible new territories being opened up in the aftermath of war with
.
Hello defender,
thanks for the interesting topic.
We wait and see...!
Btw, I always wonder who is preaching to the
2.5 billions inhabitants not counted in the
WTBS Inc., yearly report.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp