Hello Ozzie,
first of all my sincere condoleances for your loss.
Second I'm pleased to hear from you,
Keep well - as mchas you can-
all the best
JC MacHislopp
hi guys, owyergoin?
(that’s australian for youse foreigners!
haven’t called in quite a while but just called by to say “i’m still standing and still enjoying shiraz !.
Hello Ozzie,
first of all my sincere condoleances for your loss.
Second I'm pleased to hear from you,
Keep well - as mchas you can-
all the best
JC MacHislopp
i hope other countries follow suit.. https://youtu.be/pfw9xzugcms.
Hello Vndehoven 7,
many thanks for the nice video. Although the news was out alreafdy,
the video is another way to give more publicity to the Norwegian decision;
Many ...all the European governments should follow Norway's example
Greetings,
JC MacHislopp
original reddit post (removed).
Hello everyone,
I'm shocked by reading all this topic...
I don't need to add anything...a lot has been said and after all
each will sow his own fruitage. I was pleased to read:
"Nobody has to worry about any information, documents, elders letters etc disappearing, Atlantis has that covered as usual. We call that vault "Beastzilla""
And as a further good thing, I did really like Ben video. Fascinating!!
I do have a nice size database...and I wonder if oneget get more from
this "high level" reserved jw.org online library.
By the way greeting to all, Somon included and the great help given to us by
Atlantis and his family;
J.C. MacHislopp
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
Hello Doubting Thomas,
Interesting comments on your part...
Can you please read the following entire QfR ?
*** w86 4/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
Why have Jehovah’s Witnesses disfellowshipped (excommunicated)
for apostasy some who still profess belief in God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ?
Those who voice such an objection point out that many religious organizations claiming to be Christian allow dissident views. Even some clergymen disagree with basic teachings of their church, yet they remain in good standing. In nearly all the denominations of Christendom, there are modernists and fundamentalists who greatly disagree with one another as to the inspiration of the Scriptures.
However, such examples provide no grounds for our doing the same. Why not? Many of such denominations allow widely divergent views among the clergy and the laity because they feel they cannot be certain as to just what is Bible truth. They are like the scribes and Pharisees of Jesus’ day who were unable to speak as persons having authority, which is how Jesus taught. (Matthew 7:29) Moreover, to the extent that religionists believe in interfaith, they are obligated not to take divergent beliefs too seriously.
(& 1 and 23)…..
Obviously, a basis for approved fellowship with Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot rest merely on a belief in God, in the Bible, in Jesus Christ, and so forth. The Roman Catholic pope, as well as the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury, professes such beliefs, yet their church memberships are exclusive of each other. Likewise, simply professing to have such beliefs would not authorize one to be known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include
( 1 6 and 7)
When you have finished the reading would you kindly expalin to thsi board the following , expecially how,
by which means ... « Jehovah reveals the truth gradually .. » today and to whom ??
THE WATCHTOWER OCTOBER 2021 STUDY ARTICLE 42 pages 47-48 § 12
Hold Fast to the Truth With Strong Conviction
12 God’s people today do not claim to have perfect or complete knowledge of the truth . At times, they have made mistakes in doctrinal matters and in organizational direction. That should not surprise us. The Scriptures make it clear that accurate knowledge increases with time. (Col. 1:9, 10) Jehovah reveals the truth gradually, and we must be willing to wait patiently for the light of truth to get brighter. (Prov. 4:18) When those taking the lead realize that our understanding on a certain point of truth needs to be clarified, they do not hesitate to make the needed adjustments. While many denominations in Christendom make changes to please their congregations or to get closer to the world, the changes made by Jehovah’s organization are designed to draw us closer to God and to the pattern of worship established by Jesus. (Jas. 4:4) The adjustments we make are drivern not by trends or popular demands, but by a clearer understanding of the Scriptures. We love the truth!—1 Thess. 2:3, 4
12) What happens when those taking the lead realize that our understanding needs to be clarified, and why do they take that action?
I'm very interested – and I do believe many others too in your biblical answer, in line with Jesus words “I am the way and the truth and the life: » (John 14:6)
Greetings J..C. MacHoislopp
i was asked post this for machislopp.
cookie thief!.
machislopp writes:.
Hello everyone,
allow me to thank you for your comments, quite on target.
I would leke to add that the reason for digging more on the subject
was from an older article published by the Society ...48 years ago!
Please take note ot the Society's Governing Body remarks made concerning
» ...our brothers and sisters are trying to show faith without any works? ».
** yb74 pp. 254-255 Is Your Faith Dead or Alive?
James said, “Faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.” (Jas. 2:17) Having now read the Yearbook, can you say that Jehovah’s Christian witnesses world wide have faith that led them into action? Their faith is certainly not a lifeless thing. All true Christians must show that their faith is a live faith, because “faith without works is dead.” (Jas. 2:26) One’s faith must show up through work in some way. How? Look at the results with 193,990 persons being baptized last year. Jehovah’s witnesses were doing what Christ Jesus directed his disciples to do, make more disciples! So their faith shown by works has been productive.
It is very interesting to note that in the last seven years 949,842 persons were baptized; and in the last 26 years, 2,084,398. These figures say something to us. At the close of the year 1966 there were 1,118,665 publishers who were sharing in the Kingdom service, and since then there have been another 949,842 persons baptized. So today, if we make allowance for those who have died, which normally runs to about one percent per year, still we should have nearly two million persons who could be preaching the good news.
The Yearbook report shows there was a peak in publishers of 1,758,429 out in the field in 1973. So that is approximately 250,000 short of two million. Think of James’ words again: “Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works?” (Jas. 2:14) Remember, he is talking to those who have dedicated their lives to God and are baptized. He is addressing his words to “my brothers.” Are we to assume that about 250,000 of our brothers and sisters are trying to show faith without any works? It is something to ponder over.
The Society’s records show that 2,084,398 persons were baptized in the last 26 years. Add to that the publishers who were in the field service the previous year, 1947, namely, 207,552, and that gives you a total of 2,291,950 persons. Allowing for the death of about 225,000 persons, at the usual rate of one percent each year, are we to say that since 1947 there have been over three hundred thousand brothers and sisters who have gone out in the field service at some time or other since their dedication and baptism and are now trying to show Jehovah and others their faith without works? James says: “Faith divorced from deeds is lifeless as a corpse.”—Jas. 2:26, NE.
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Conclusion : The reasons... starting with death of many member/year, maby
dissociated, many disfellowshipped and other fadaed...(including the inactves)
the real facts of life shows that hundreds of thousands baptizedJehovah's
Witnesseare...missing and no longer « active publishers » in their congregation.
And the period I did choose, was the last 4 years , from 201/ to 2021 included
It is also very ironical that the Society's Governing Body added..48 years ago
the comment : « It is something to ponder over. »
Greetings to eveyone,
JC MacHislopp
PS Many thanks to Atlantis for stepping in to help me.
i hope to make a very interesting post here, and informative.
i’m quite sure no one here has heard this content.
i would like to finally make known some heretofore undisclosed details concerning something that has affected probably everyone on this board to some degree.
Hello lastmanstanding,
many thanks for your excellent post and the uncovering
of the mighty - for not too long - WTBS Ins and its
"Governing Body' Please let us know any further news on the
matter.
I was pleased to read abourt you subjet, because following an
information from a famous Norvigian poster fid id stat a topic
-20 years ago - entitled:
"UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS"
If you have some time...look at it!
Again many thanks for your post - downloaded into my archives -
My best greetings,
JC MacHislopp
the 2021 annual meeting is causing quite an upset.
if you missed the download link before, then here it is again.. 2021 annual meeting in full.. here:.
https://www.filemail.com/d/lqocjuynimtsehe.
Hello Atlantis,
many, many thanks for providing the 2021 Annual Meeting in full.
I've just finished the download Will comment as I get through
the all video sections.
Many greeting to you and your team ...and the source of this
piece of evidence.
From me and my European friends,
sincerely
JC MacHislopp
would someone in the know please clarify for me some alleged comments given from the governing body at the recent/yet to be streamed for the rank and file annual meeting?.
it is my understanding that samuel herd basically tells the rank and file that old light is new light and the new light of july, 2013 is now old light.
to be specific, herd states that the official stance on whether or not the annointed remaining on earth, to include the governing body, will all be in heaven prior to armageddon.. at this same annual meeting tony morris iii tells those in attendance that stephen letts' statement that "we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days!
Hello LongHairGal,
many thanks for correcting the error : 52 years not 54 !
Bihai: yes it is old light but the mighty WTBS Inc. and its 'Governing Body'
claims that:
" w16 October pp. 22-23 par. 7 Strengthen Your Faith in What
You Hope For ** *Jehovah has also blessed us with an abundant
supply of spiritual food provided through “the faithful and discreet slave.”
(Matt. 24:45)
Greetings to all,
JCMacHislopp
would someone in the know please clarify for me some alleged comments given from the governing body at the recent/yet to be streamed for the rank and file annual meeting?.
it is my understanding that samuel herd basically tells the rank and file that old light is new light and the new light of july, 2013 is now old light.
to be specific, herd states that the official stance on whether or not the annointed remaining on earth, to include the governing body, will all be in heaven prior to armageddon.. at this same annual meeting tony morris iii tells those in attendance that stephen letts' statement that "we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days!
Hello everyone,
please allow me to contribute, with an information - published 54 years ago-
from the mighty WTBS Inc. :
** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not require such long periods of additional schooling… True, those who do not understand where we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order? "
Many greeting to you all,
JC MacHiqlopp
2021-december-s-147-uk-announcements and reminders.
https://www.filemail.com/d/aqervnmnydhabudorhttps://we.tl/t-fffjovd2ep-----------------------------------.
2021-october-italian-sfl-shepherd the flock-elder manualhttps://www.filemail.com/d/ovlnprszkuparxmor.
Hello Atlantis,
as usual many, many thanks from me and my European friends!
Excellent stuff...and I do agree with 'JW GoneBad' that the mighty
publications Society got stuck in the mud;
".....digital publications and other printed literature, including older issues of the magazines, may continue to be used in the ministry."
This is an excellent news especially when the Society claims that :
w16 October pp. 22-23 par. 7 Strengthen Your Faith in What You Hope For ***
Jehovah has also blessed us with an abundant supply of spiritual food provided through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45)
and
Figuratively speaking, Jehovah has caused life-sustaining grain to sprout up abundantly for his people. The timely spiritual food provided through our district conventions well illustrates this fact.(km 04/04 page 4)
Thanks again Atlantis to you and your family together with
and many sincere greetings,
JC MacHislopp